Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, aka Bennifer, have finally found their perfect love nest — one that’s modeled after a famous queen’s lavish chateau.
It may have taken them two years and three failed escrows but the wait paid off because this mansion is the ultimate luxury home for the power couple.
Many were confused over the stars’ indecision to commit to buying a property. With an unlimited budget at their disposal, it was a little out of the ordinary that these A-listers kept changing their minds.
According to reports, the two looked at mansions in the range of $35 to as high as $85 million in the most exclusive neighborhoods. But none of them quite passed the mark, leading people to believe that there was trouble in paradise. Or are they just really picky?
All doubts were cast aside when the lovebirds set their eyes on this mansion. They instantly fell in love with the property! They paid $61 million in cold cash and the deal took just one week to close, per TMZ.
What’s not to love? This stunning mansion is inspired by one of the most iconic chateaus in history.
The mansion was modeled after Marie Antoinette’s chateau, Le Petit Trianon
Dubbed the Wallingford Estate, the Beverly Hills abode features French-style architecture that was originally modeled after Marie Antoinette’s private chateau, Le Petit Trianon.
The queen’s manor, located on the grounds of the Palace of Versailles, was a gift from her husband, King Louis XVI.
Known for her love for all things opulent, Marie Antoinette adored her private estate. It served as a place of refuge, where the queen staged operas, productions, and lavish parties.
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The Wallingford’s exterior features stately columns, large windows, and a rectangular shape that echoes the iconic design of Le Petit Trianon.
While the interiors have been modernized with state-of-the-art technology and contemporary furniture, it still retains its French Neoclassic ambiance.
Ben and J.Lo’s house has 12 bedrooms and 24 bathrooms
Situated on a 5.2-acre lot, the megamansion boasts a total of 12 bedrooms and 24 bathrooms across an impressive 38,000 square feet of indoor living space — providing plenty of living space for Ben and Jen’s blended family.
You can take a closer look inside Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez’s new mansion here (swipe to see the revamped interiors):
The couple are co-parenting peacefully with their exes (Jennifer Gardner and Marc Anthony) and share five children between them.
There won’t be any shortage of space for their big family in this huge mansion!
Like its sprawling grounds, everything about this house is grand. The double-door entryway opens to an expansive living room with double-height ceilings and large skylights that make the space even more massive.
White walls with frame molding display sophistication, while large windows allow plenty of natural light to brighten up every corner of the open floor space.
JLo previously shared a glimpse of the mansion’s downstairs area on Instagram while celebrating the success of Mother with her friends. Walking from the stairs to the bar, fans got a view of the gorgeous interiors of the ground floor.
Another highlight of this property is its secured grounds — a top requirement among high-profile celebrities. The mansion is surrounded by tall hedges and comes fully fenced with secured entrance and exit gates from two different private streets.
This design layout safeguards the often-photographed couple from prying eyes and paparazzi. And we know all too well how much Ben Affleck ‘loves’ paparazzi, don’t we?
Recreational amenities include a 155-foot-long infinity pool, a home theater, spa areas, a full-service salon, and a sports complex complete with a basketball court, a pickleball court, a fully equipped gym, and a boxing ring.
Visitors can also enjoy a slice of luxury living in the 5,000-square-foot guest penthouse. This structure also houses the garage area, which is large enough to fit 90 cars!
It’s one of the most luxurious homes in all of Beverly Hills
Fitting for one of Hollywood’s most famous couples, Ben and Jennifer’s new house is one of the city’s most impressive mansions and was once one of L.A.’s priciest listings.
Sitting mere minutes away from the Beverly Hills Hotel in the gated Wallingford Estates community. It had previously been owned by healthcare entrepreneur Jeoung Lee before real estate mogul Gala Asher picked it up for $22 million back in 2016.
What followed was an extensive renovation that brought the sprawling mansion into the 21st century. Asher then sought to capitalize on his big investments in the property by listing it for a whopping $135 million in 2018.
With no takers, a series of price adjustments followed, until the famous couple finally took it off the market in 2023. The final sale price was $60,850,000 — which amounts to $1,601/sqft.
The moral of Ben and Jen’s house-hunting saga? Patience pays off. By holding off on their purchase, they were able to find a perfect palace to call their home. A happily-ever-after ending for a Hollywood royal couple.
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No matter what age you are, it’s never too soon to start thinking about — and actively saving for — your retirement. With reports coming out regularly about the severe retirement savings gap in the U.S., it seems as though the majority of Americans are vastly underprepared for this life event.
If your employer offers a 401(k) at your place of work, this is a great way to get started (or continue) saving for your golden years. Before you jump in, find out exactly what a 401(k) is and how it can help you prepare for retirement. If you already contribute to a 401(k) plan, make sure you know what to expect when it comes time to retire.
How does a 401(k) work?
A 401(k) plan helps you save while investing your contributions in various mutual funds. Employers offer this type of retirement plan, so you can’t sign up for one unless you go through your place of work.
As an incentive to save, you receive a tax break. Depending on the type of 401(k) you choose (or your company offers), you either receive that tax break when you make the contribution or when it comes time to withdrawal.
Employer 401(k) Matching
Many employers offer a match to any contribution you make. This usually happens in one of two ways: they’ll either match dollar for dollar up to a certain limit or up to a percentage of your salary.
The most common type of 401(k), the traditional 401(k), allows you to make any contribution tax-deductible each year. So if you contribute $6,000 a year, you get to knock that off your taxable income amount. If you’re on the edge of a tax bracket and make a sizeable 401(k) contribution, you might even be able to jump down into a different bracket with a lower tax rate.
401(k) Tax Rules
While your investments continue to grow each year, they remain temporarily protected from taxation. Unlike other types of investments, you don’t pay any annual tax on your 401(k) earnings until you start to make withdrawals. At that point, you’ll be subject to regular income tax when you take out money each month.
As you continue to make 401(k) contributions throughout your year, you can adjust your investments to become increasingly less volatile. The idea is that as you get closer to retirement age, you have less risk to ensure a solid nest egg when you need it.
The Benefits of a 401(k)
A 401(k) is a retirement savings plan sponsored by an employer. It allows employees to save and invest a portion of their paycheck before taxes are taken out. Contributions to a 401(k) are made with pretax dollars, which can lower your taxable income in the current year and potentially result in a lower tax bill.
Some other benefits of a 401(k) include:
Employer matching contributions: Many employers will match a portion of their employees’ 401(k) contributions, effectively giving you free money to save for retirement.
Tax-deferred growth: Any investment earnings on your 401(k) account grow tax-free until you withdraw the money in retirement.
Potential for tax credits: Depending on your income and participation in a 401(k) or other qualified retirement plan, you may be eligible for certain tax credits that can help reduce your tax liability.
Retirement income: A 401(k) can provide a source of income in retirement, which can help you maintain your standard of living when you are no longer working.
Convenience: Many 401(k) plans offer a range of investment options, and the contributions are automatically deducted from your paycheck, making it easy to save for the future.
The money you withdraw from a 401(k) in retirement is subject to income tax, and 401(k) plans have contribution limits. However, overall, a 401(k) can be a valuable tool for saving for the future and reducing your tax liability.
401(k) Contribution Limits
There are limits to your 401(k):
While it’s a great financial tool, you can only contribute up to $22,500 each year, amounting to $1,875 per month if you divide it out monthly. If you’re over the age of 50, you’re allowed to contribute up to $30,000 a year ($2,500 per month). These contribution limits are in place so that you can only benefit from so much tax savings each year.
Required Minimum Distributions
Another rule associated with a 401(k) is that you must start taking “required minimum distributions” at some point. That means once you hit a certain age, you must begin withdrawing funds from your 401(k) account — and paying taxes on them.
Currently, the requirement is that you start taking distributions the year after you turn 70 ½. Then you have to take out distributions by December 31 of each following year. Your minimum required amount is determined by the IRS based on your life expectancy. There’s nothing quite like a government tax agency predicting your lifespan, is there?
Still, this information helps you determine what kind of tax burden you can expect when you’ve finally retired. While your income may be lower, your deductions might be as well. After all, you probably don’t have kids left at home to claim as a deduction. And if you’ve paid off your mortgage, you won’t have that interest to deduct either.
It’s great not to have those expenses, but it can be helpful to talk to a tax professional to get a better idea of your taxes, especially in that first year of retirement or required minimum distributions. The more prepared you are, the more financial flexibility you can have!
401(K) Plan Types
There are two main types of 401(k) plans: traditional 401(k)s and Roth 401(k)s.
A traditional 401(k) allows you to contribute pretax dollars to your account. Your contributions and any investment earnings in the account are tax-deferred. This means you won’t have to pay taxes on them until you withdraw the money in retirement. When you withdraw the money in retirement, it is taxed as ordinary income.
A Roth 401(k) is similar to a traditional 401(k), but contributions are made with after-tax dollars. This means you won’t get an immediate tax break on your contributions, but qualified withdrawals from the account in retirement are tax-free.
Some 401(k) plans may offer both traditional and Roth options, allowing you the flexibility to choose the type of plan that best meets your needs.
There are also types of 401(k) plans that are designed for specific types of employers, such as safe harbor 401(k)s and SIMPLE 401(k)s. These plans may have different contribution limits and rules for employer matching contributions. So, it’s important to understand the details of the plan you are enrolled in.
What’s the difference between a traditional 401(k) and a Roth 401(k)?
While a traditional 401(k) offers upfront tax savings in return for taxes paid later during retirement, a Roth 401(k) flips the situation around. Instead, your contributions are made with your taxable income. In return, you don’t have to pay any taxes when you start withdrawing from your account during retirement.
While you miss out on tax savings upfront, you’re only paying on the original contribution amount. If you had to pay taxes when you withdraw, you’re also paying taxes on everything you’ve earned, which is hopefully a lot more money than you started with.
Roth 401(k) Requirements
There are requirements to qualify for the Roth 401(k) benefits:
First, your account must be open for at least five years. You also have to wait until you’re at least 59 ½ before you can start taking distributions, unless you’ve had a disability.
A Roth IRA is particularly useful if you’ve accumulated a lot in retirement savings and other investments. While many people have less income when they retire, that’s not always the case. You may have a comprehensive portfolio of investments, in which case you could be better served by not paying taxes on at least part of your withdrawals.
If you’re nearing retirement and expect to drop in your tax bracket soon, there may be no sense in using a Roth 401(k) now. A Roth 401(k) can be a great choice if you have a lower income now because you’re earlier in your career or have tons of tax deductions because of kids and a mortgage.
Like all retirement plans, there are better products for different points in your life. By constantly reassessing how you contribute to your retirement savings, you can maximize your tax benefits now and in the future.
See also: IRA vs. 401(k): Where Should You Invest Your Money?
Employer Contribution Match
An employer contribution match is a feature of some 401(k) plans in which the employer agrees to contribute a certain amount of money to an employee’s 401(k) account based on employee contributions.
For example, an employer might offer a 50% employer match on the first 6% of an employee’s salary that the employee contributes to their 401(k) account. In this case, if the employee contributes 6% of their salary to their 401(k), the employer would contribute an additional 3% (50% of the employee’s contribution).
Employer contributions are a way for employers to encourage their employees to save for retirement and to provide an additional source of retirement income for their employees. Employers may also use contribution matching as a way to attract and retain top talent.
Employer contribution matches may have certain rules and requirements, such as vesting periods, that determine when an employee becomes fully entitled to employer contributions. Make sure you understand the details of any employer contribution match offered by your employer to make the most of this benefit.
What happens if you leave your job?
Don’t worry. You don’t lose your 401(k) savings if you leave your current employer. You typically have a few different options available to you. First, you can leave it in the company plan if they allow it. You won’t be able to continue making contributions or any changes to your allocations. But you can access it when you’re ready to retire.
401(k) Rollover
Or you can do a rollover:
A rollover allows you to switch the funds to another retirement plan without paying any tax penalties. You can either do an IRA rollover or use a plan from your new employer. You do need to make sure your new employer’s plan allows for rollovers.
Then you can continue your contributions as normal, following the rules of the new account, whatever it may be. An IRA is always a viable option because you’re in control of how you invest. And while the annual contribution limit is $6,500 (or $7,500 if you’re 50 or older), it doesn’t count when you’re rolling over funds.
Your final option for handling your 401(k) when you leave your job is to cash it out. If you do this, you’ll be subject to all the relevant penalties. These include a 10% early withdrawal penalty and income taxes for both federal and state. The exception to the early withdrawal penalty is if you are at least 55 years old when you leave your employer.
How much should you contribute to your 401(k)?
How much you decide to contribute to your 401(k) should depend on numerous factors. At the very least, you should contribute the maximum amount allowed to receive a matching contribution from your employer. That essentially equals free money, which you should never pass up.
Next, think about your financial picture as a whole. What kind of debt do you have? If you have any high-interest credit card or loan balances, you may want to focus your efforts on paying those down before contributing more to your retirement plan. Lower interest debts, like a fixed student loan, may not be as pressing to repay.
Furthermore, consider these recommended saving strategies:
Emergency Fund
You’ll probably want a three to six-month emergency fund in case you lose your job or get a sudden illness or injury. Having a large chunk of money stashed away in an easy-to-access savings account can provide you with financial security here and now.
Roth IRA
Once you’ve got your overall savings plan in order, it’s time to start figuring out where else to invest for retirement. Before you max out your traditional 401(k), think about picking up a Roth IRA. This helps you diversify your retirement plans for tax purposes.
Like a Roth 401(k), a Roth IRA lets you pay taxes on your contributions now, so you don’t have to pay anything when you make withdrawals during retirement. It can certainly help you spread out your tax burdens over the course of your life.
Still have money left over to invest?
If you do, revisit your 401(k). Remember, you can contribute up to $22,500 so you can certainly divert more of your income towards that maximum.
How else should you prepare for retirement?
Preparing for retirement takes a constant reassessment of your current needs versus your future goals. As easy as it is to say, “You need to contribute this-many-thousands of dollars a year to survive retirement,” the reality is that it’s much harder to actually do that.
But saving for retirement is still a challenge worth conquering. Even if you’re in your 40s and haven’t started saving a dime, you can start today. Once you’ve got your current savings fund in place that you can use for emergencies, implement some of these easy tips to get ready for retirement.
For now, worry less about picking the perfect type of account and focus on the habit of retirement saving.
Here are some ideas to get you started:
How to Save Extra Money:
Downsize your living expenses, one step at a time.
Place your tax refund into a retirement account.
Stream television instead of paying for cable.
Cut back on eating out.
Stay healthy to reduce future healthcare costs.
Pay down high interest debt like credit cards.
Sell your stuff and put the money towards retirement.
How to Strategically Manage Your Retirement Accounts:
Create a retirement savings goal as a percentage of your income.
Pay yourself first by setting up auto direct deposit to your retirement account on payday.
Take advantage of higher IRA contribution limits when you’re 50+.
Audit your accounts every year.
Consolidate multiple accounts (like IRAs) to reduce fees.
Put your end-of-year bonus into a retirement account.
Bottom Line
Investing in your retirement is really investing in yourself. Taking advantage of your employer’s 401(k) is an important part of the equation. In addition to making regular contributions, be sure to explore all of your options for financing your retirement. A healthy portfolio mix isn’t difficult to develop, and there are plenty of resources available to help you get started.
Amidst a backdrop of inflation, rising borrowing costs, and growing debt levels, employee financial wellness has been on the decline in recent years. According to PwC’s 2023 Employee Financial Wellness Survey, a full 60% of full-time employees are stressed about their finances. Indeed, employees are even more concerned about their finances today than during the height of the pandemic.
Given that money worries can take a toll on employee health and well-being, as well as productivity at work, it makes sense that a growing number of employers are enhancing support for financial wellness. Bank of America’s 2023 Workplace Benefits Report found that 97% of employers now feel responsible for employee financial wellness (up from 95% in 2021, and from 41% in 2013).
Regardless of how well-compensated your staff may be, this type of resource can help workers feel more financially confident and prepared for the future. Here’s a look at 10 reasons why adding this benefit is so important.
1. Decreases Distractions and Increases Productivity
According to PwC’s Survey (which included 3,638 full-time employed adults across a variety of industries), financially stressed employees tend to be more distracted and less engaged while at work. The study found that financial stress and money worries had a negative impact on the respondents’ sleep, mental health, self-esteem, physical health, and personal relationships. Nearly one-third of employees surveyed admitted that financial insecurity has negatively impacted their productivity at work.
When employees are able to easily get answers to their financial questions and access on-site support when dealing with money problems, there’s a good chance they’ll be less stressed about their finances and more able to focus on their jobs. That’s a win for both employees and employers.
2. Improves Employee Physical Health
Financial stressors have been found to correlate directly with not only mental health challenges but also with poor physical well-being. As the American Psychological Association points out in their Stress in America 2023 report, stress and anxiety put the body on high alert and ongoing stress can accumulate, causing inflammation, wearing on the immune system, and increasing the risk of a number of different ailments, including digestive issues, heart disease, weight gain, and stroke.
Providing your employees with the support they need now can go a long way toward staving off physical health challenges down the line.
3. Builds Loyalty
By offering financial wellness programs, employers demonstrate a commitment to their employees’ well-being, which can help foster employee loyalty and increase retention rates.
The PwC study found that just 54% of financially stressed employees felt there was a promising future for them at their employer, and they were twice as likely to be looking for a new job than employees who were less stressed about their personal finances. What’s more, 73% of financially stressed employees said they would be attracted to another employer that cares more about their financial well-being compared to just 54% of non-financially stressed employees.
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4. Can Help Reduce the Burden of Student Debt
Employees struggling to pay down student debt often have difficulty contributing to 401(k) plans and achieving other financial goals, such as buying a house or car. By offering student loan repayment benefits and education, employers can reduce this burden and help employees plan for the future.
The good news is that these programs recently became more affordable. Under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security (CARES) Act, employers can now provide $5,250 tax-exempt annually for an employee’s student loan repayment through 2025. That means employees won’t pay income tax on contributions made by their employers toward educational assistance programs, yet the employer also gets a payroll tax exclusion on these funds.
A growing number of employers are offering some form of loan repayment support. In 2021, only 17% of companies offered any of these benefits. In October 2023, 34% of employers offered student loan benefits.
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5. Employees Want It
According to the PwC study, the vast majority of employees want help with their finances. Not only that, the stigma around getting help with finances appears to be lifting. In 2023, employees overall were less likely to be embarrassed to ask for guidance or advice about their finances than they’ve been in the past: Just 33% said they find it embarrassing, compared to 42% in PwC’s 2019 survey.
In Bank of America’s Workplace Benefits Report (which surveyed more than 1,300 employees and nearly 800 employers), 76% of employees said they felt that employers are responsible for their financial wellness.
6. Can Help Parents Save for Future College Expenses
In a June 2023 survey of 1,000 parents of teenagers by Discover Student Loans, 70% of subjects said they were worried about financing their kids’ college expenses. In addition, 68% of parents were concerned about the amount of debt their kids will be saddled with even after the parents offer up their own financial assistance.
Providing employees with much-needed information about 529 college savings plans and giving them a convenient way to contribute directly from their pay, can go a long way in helping to relieve the stress associated with one of their top financial concerns.
While in the past, the options for using unspent 529 funds were limited (and often meant facing tax and penalty consequences), the SECURE 2.0 Act allows savers to roll unused 529 funds — to a lifetime limit of $35,000 — into the beneficiary’s Roth IRA, without incurring the usual 10% penalty for nonqualified withdrawals or generating any taxable income. The new rule went into effect January 1, 2024 and might come as a relief to any employees who worry about having excess funds stuck in a 529 should their child end up not needing the money.
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7. Helps to Clarify Confusing Financial Topics
Many young professionals want to buy their first home, but they don’t know how to save for a down payment or secure a mortgage. New to the workforce, they also struggle to understand financial topics they weren’t taught in school, such as income tax deductions (especially as they get married and have children), the necessity of life insurance, and wealth management and investing.
At the same time, older employees might feel overwhelmed by the financial options available to them. With educational resources and access to experts through a financial wellness program, employees can find the information they need from vetted and trusted sources. In PwC’s survey, 68% of employees said they use their employer’s financial wellness services such as coaching, workshops or online tools.
8. Protects Employees
Sometimes healthcare benefits just aren’t enough. In the event of a health emergency, employees need to be prepared for insurance deductibles and other unexpected costs. Solid financial preparations can prevent them from dipping into savings or making hardship withdrawals from 401(k) plans. Those withdrawals can not only damage their prospects for long-term financial stability, but also create administrative headaches for HR.
Providing an automated emergency savings program is fast becoming a way for employers to help provide a foundation for financial well-being for workers. These plans allow employees to make paycheck contributions to a dedicated account (possibly with a company match), and can help make your workforce more financially resilient in the face of life’s “What Ifs.”
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9. Enhances Your Organization’s DEI Efforts
These days, many employers of all sizes have a diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) strategy or program in place to increase inclusion in the workplace. Offering financial wellness benefits to employees is yet another way to foster a more equitable company culture.
The reason is that financial wellness benefits can help level the playing field by helping to empower minorities and underrepresented groups, who may have more financial stress and encounter more barriers to economic opportunities. Giving all employee populations access to programs that can help them buy their first homes, pay down student debt, save for emergencies, and invest for the future allows them to build wealth for generations to come.
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10. Helps Employees Plan for Retirement
Employer-sponsored retirement plans can help to ease the financial stress that stems from retirement planning. In addition to offering a retirement plan, you might also provide education programs on planning for retirement, understanding different types of accounts available, and best places to get started based on age and goals.
In addition, you might consider instituting a 401(k) match for their student loan payments. Thanks to a provision in Secure Act 2.0 (that went into effect at the start of 2024), companies can match employees’ qualified student loan payments with contributions to their retirement accounts, including 401(k)s, 403(b)s, SIMPLE IRAs, and government 457(b) plans. With this benefit, employees won’t need to make the decision regarding whether to contribute to their 401(k)s or make student loan payments.
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The Takeaway
Financial stress is a major concern for today’s employees, and something a growing number of workers want their employers to help with. Providing support for financial wellness can help boost employee engagement and retention, stave off mental and physical health concerns, help your company recruit top talent, and even lead to a more inclusive and equitable workplace.
SoFi at Work can help. We provide the benefit platforms and education resources that can enhance financial wellness throughout your workforce.
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The median annual wage for speech pathologists in the U.S. is $84,140, according to the latest data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). But salaries can vary significantly, ranging from less than $56,370 to more than $126,680.
How much money you can make as a speech-language pathologist may depend on several factors, including the industry in which you work, the level of education you attain, and where you live.
Here’s a look at what speech pathologists do and how they are paid.
What Is a Speech Pathologist?
Speech pathologists are health care providers who evaluate, diagnose, and treat children and adults who are experiencing communication difficulties because of speech, language, or voice problems. They also may treat clients who are struggling with developmental delays, memory issues, or who have trouble swallowing.
Speech pathologists typically work in a school, hospital, or rehabilitation/nursing home setting, or they may open their own practice. They often work as part of a multi-disciplinary team that also provides occupational therapy, physical therapy, and other types of care.
All speech pathologists must be licensed. While the qualifications can vary by state, a master’s degree from an accredited university is often required, along with several hours of supervised clinical experience, a Certificate of Clinical Competence in Speech-Language Pathology (CCC-SLP) from the American Speech-Language Hearing Association (ASHA), and a passing grade on a state exam.
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How Much Do Starting Speech Pathologists Make a Year?
Speech-language pathologists with one to three years of experience earned a median salary of $74,000 in 2023, according to the ASHA’s SLP Health Care Survey Salary Report. The job site ZipRecruiter lists Massachusetts, Washington, Colorado, Delaware, and Illinois as the states where speech pathologists currently earn the highest entry-level salaries.
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What Is the Average Salary for a Speech Pathologist?
So how much can you expect to make per year if you stay with a career as a speech pathologist?
The 2023 SLP Health Care Survey Salary Report found that several factors can have an impact on speech pathologists’ earnings, including job duties, the type of facility where they’re employed, if they work full- or part-time, if they’re paid a salary vs. hourly wage or on a per-visit basis, and whether they work in a region with a higher cost of living.
Here are the average annual salaries for speech pathologists by state.
Average Speech Pathologist Salary by State
State
Average Annual Salary
Alabama
$81,140
Alaska
$90,279
Arizona
$83,423
Arkansas
$68,644
California
$94,592
Colorado
$87,186
Connecticut
$80,836
Delaware
$82,742
Florida
$66,895
Georgia
$75,588
Hawaii
$87,406
Idaho
$90,774
Illinois
$80,442
Indiana
$85,185
Iowa
$80,542
Kansas
$75,362
Kentucky
$72,228
Louisiana
$73,799
Maine
$91,996
Maryland
$80,211
Massachusetts
$90,970
Michigan
$72,246
Minnesota
$84,527
Mississippi
$80,048
Missouri
$77,637
Montana
$82,167
Nebraska
$78,728
Nevada
$85,362
New Hampshire
$88,375
New Jersey
$89,146
New Mexico
$84,483
New York
$98,990
North Carolina
$75,258
North Dakota
$89,084
Ohio
$82,280
Oklahoma
$76,241
Oregon
$89,146
Pennsylvania
$90,666
Rhode Island
$82,571
South Carolina
$76,844
South Dakota
$84,193
Tennessee
$78,555
Texas
$90,424
Utah
$78,424
Vermont
$97,120
Virginia
$81,864
Washington
$110,930
West Virginia
$70,022
Wisconsin
$87,933
Wyoming
$86,602
Source: ZipRecruiter
Recommended: Cost of Living by State
Speech Pathologists Job Considerations for Pay and Benefits
If you decide speech pathology is the right fit for you, you may not need to worry about job security. The BLS is projecting that employment of speech pathologists will grow by 19% over the next decade, which is much faster than the average for all occupations combined.
Therapists are needed more than ever to assist aging baby boomers and others who’ve experienced a stroke, hearing loss, dementia, or other health-related issues. And there is an increasing need for those who wish to work with kids and adults on the autism spectrum. Therapists are also needed to help children overcome speech impediments and other communication issues.
A career as a speech pathologist also can offer a competitive paycheck. While the BLS reported the median weekly earnings for all full-time workers was $1,145 in the fourth quarter of 2023, the average weekly paycheck for a speech pathologist was $1,652, according to ZipRecruiter.
Of course, the pay and benefits you receive will likely be tied to the job you choose. If you’re employed by a public school district in a rural community, for example, you may not earn as much as a department head at a large health facility in a major city. Still, you can expect to receive benefits similar to other workers in the health-care field, including health insurance, a retirement plan, vacation pay, etc.
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Pros and Cons of a Speech Pathologist’s Salary
Probably the biggest downside of choosing a career as a speech pathologist is the amount of time and money it can take just to get started. After getting your bachelor’s degree, it may take two or more years to complete your master’s degree and clinical training. Depending on the career path you choose, you also may need to earn certain certifications along with your state license to practice. And it may take some time to pay off your student debt.
On the plus side, you’ll be helping others in a career that can be extremely fulfilling, and you can earn a comfortable living while doing so.
Here are some more pros and cons to keep in mind.
Pros:
• As a speech pathologist, you will be helping others and, in many cases, changing lives.
• You’ll be working and networking with other professionals who will help you keep learning.
• You may be able to design a schedule that fits your needs (especially if you have your own practice).
Cons:
• You may have an overwhelming caseload, and the work could be frustrating and stressful at times.
• You may have to work nights and weekends (even with a job in education or in private practice).
• The paperwork can be daunting and may require working overtime or taking work home to keep up. 💡 Quick Tip: Income, expenses, and life circumstances can change. Consider reviewing your budget a few times a year and making any adjustments if needed.
The Takeaway
Working as a speech pathologist can be professionally rewarding. Not only is the field growing, it tends to pay well, too. However, you can expect to make a substantial investment in time and money before you get the job you want. And how much you earn — especially when starting out — can depend on several factors, including the specialty you choose, who your employer is, and where you’re located.
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FAQ
Can you make $100,000 a year as a speech pathologist?
Yes. While the median annual wage for speech-language pathologists in the U.S. is $84,140, the highest 10% of earners in this category make six-figure salaries.
Do most speech pathologists enjoy their work?
Speech-language pathologists came in at No. 3 on U.S. News & World Report’s ranking of “Best HealthCare Jobs” for 2024 and No. 10 on the news site’s list of “100 Best Jobs.” While the career was rated above average for stress, it received high ratings for both flexibility and opportunities for upward mobility.
Is it hard to get hired as a speech pathologist?
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the job outlook for speech pathologists is good, and should be solid for the next decade. If you get the proper education and training, and you have a passion for helping others, it shouldn’t be too difficult to find work in this profession.
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Inside: Discover the secrets to earning $200k a year. Learn to choose industries, negotiate salaries, and balance life with high-income careers.
Achieving a $200,000 annual income is a financial milestone that many aspire to reach, but not everyone knows how to realistically attain.
Whether you’re starting from scratch or looking to elevate your current earnings, the blueprint to a $200K income is within your grasp. It all begins with a strategic approach that leverages both a steady job and an entrepreneurial spirit.
Achieving a $200k salary is not just about luxury—it’s about stability and security. With rising living costs, including student loans, mortgages, and everyday expenses, earning a high income is increasingly vital to maintaining a comfortable lifestyle.
By combining the stability of a well-paying career with the dynamism of a side hustle, you can fast-track your way to this lofty goal.
In this comprehensive guide, we dive deep into a method that suits everyone to make $200000 this year.
You’ll learn how to harness your passions, manage your time and expenses, and create a foolproof plan that caters to your strengths and circumstances.
How to Make 200k a Year
Achieving this level of annual income is a significant financial goal that necessitates a well-devised strategy combining steady employment with entrepreneurial endeavors.
This is possible for anyone to do. You have been making 10k a month for a while now and want to make the leap.
You just must be steadfast in pursuing your goals.
#1 – Identify high-income skills and industries
The first step toward making $200k a year is to recognize the skills and industries that command such salaries. Technology and finance are prime examples where hard work and expertise can lead to impressive earnings right out of college.
Specialized skills in software development, cybersecurity, data analysis, and AI are highly sought after. Additionally, roles in investment banking, private equity, and hedge funds are lucrative but come with intense competition and long hours.
Identifying these prospects involves understanding market needs, so be prepared to continually adapt to the latest industry trends. I cannot stress how important these high income skills are for your income.
Top Skills: Software Development, Cybersecurity, Data Analysis, Artificial Intelligence, Financial Analysis
Top Industries: Tech, Finance, Consulting, Healthcare, Legal
#2 – Degrees and Courses That Could Lead to 200K Jobs
If you’re seeking a high-paying career, focusing your education in specific areas is crucial. Advanced degrees, such as a doctoral degree in medicine, law, business administration (MBA), or specialized engineering can pave the way to high-paying roles.
For those with a penchant for academia, pursuing specialized courses that lead to becoming a medical lawyer, dentist, neurologist, psychiatrist, or gynecologist can be extremely rewarding. However, keep in mind that these paths generally require significant time and financial investment in education before reaping the financial rewards.
However, there are plenty of low-stress jobs that pay well without a degree.
Recommended Degrees: Medicine, Law, Engineering, Business Administration (MBA)
Embarking on entrepreneurship is a thrilling yet challenging path to reach unlimited annual income.
To start a business that prospers, it’s essential to identify a market need and create a clear business plan. Whether you’re selling a physical product, offering a service, or thriving in the digital market through online marketing, e-commerce, or app development, dedication, and strategic growth are paramount.
Investing both time and capital wisely, and adapting to market feedback can help you scale your business to meet and exceed your financial goals.
Investment Tip: Consider start-up costs carefully, and plan for lean operation.
Growth Strategy: Focus on customer satisfaction, scaling smartly, and marketing effectively.
#4 – Advance in your current career
Climbing the corporate ladder within your existing professional environment is a viable route to a higher salary.
To do this, focus on excelling in your current role, continuously improve your skills, and demonstrate the value you add to the company. Seek out leadership roles, ask for challenging projects, and take on responsibilities that align with the company’s revenue-generating activities.
Remember, promotions often come with significant pay raises, and it’s essential to communicate your career goals with your employer to align your trajectory with the available opportunities. Just watch the number of working hours you put in.
Key Strategies: Exceed performance expectations, take initiative, and pursue leadership roles.
Professional Development: Continued education, certifications, and networking are critical for advancement.
#5 – Invest in real estate for passive income
Real estate investment remains a cornerstone strategy for building wealth.
Focusing on location is key; properties in high-demand markets can yield substantial returns through rental income and appreciation. Paying with cash rather than financing can lead to better deals and avoid interest payments, as debt can eat into profits.
Moreover, platforms like Fundrise allow investors to start with as little as $10, which could be a smart move if you’re seeking a hands-off investment with a diverse real estate portfolio.
Investment Insight: Cash purchases may provide better deals, reducing financial risk.
Real Estate Tip: Choose high-demand locations for better rental income and property appreciation.
#6 – Maximize income through stocks or other investments
Investing in the stock market through individual stocks, mutual funds, or exchange-traded funds (ETFs) is another way to potentially earn $200k a year. Dividends from some of these investments can also serve as a consistent income stream.
Consider focusing on industries poised for growth or stable dividend-paying stocks, as these can offer a balance between growth potential and income reliability.
Additionally, alternative investments such as cryptocurrencies or option contracts can offer high returns, but come with high volatility. Always conduct thorough research or consult with a financial advisor before making significant investment decisions.
Learn how to invest in stocks for beginners.
Investment Strategy: Diversify your portfolio, focus on growth sectors, and consider enhancing your investment knowledge.
Cautionary Note: Be aware of market risks and do not invest more than you can afford to lose.
#7 – Gain Relevant Experience in High-Demand Fields
To command a $200k paycheck, it’s essential to gain experience in fields where the demand for your skills exceeds the supply.
Industries such as technology, healthcare, and specialized consulting are in constant need of experienced professionals. Work on projects that showcase your expertise and build a robust professional portfolio.
You can also consider a side hustle like freelancing or consulting to gain a broad range of experiences that can make you an attractive candidate for high-level positions.
Experience Building: Take on varied projects, freelance, or consult in your niche.
Portfolio Enhancement: Document your successes and gather testimonials or recommendations.
#8 – Continuous Learning and Adaptability to Stay Ahead
In the dynamic job market, staying complacent can mean getting left behind. Cultivating a habit of lifelong learning and adaptability is crucial. Did you know you are an appreciating asset?
This may involve updating your skill set to keep pace with technological advancements, attaining new certifications, or attending industry conferences and workshops. Remember that cross-skills, like project management or business analytics, are also valuable and can complement your primary expertise.
Embrace change and be willing to pivot when necessary to maintain your competitive edge and earning potential.
Professional Development: Seek out further education and certifications.
Adaptability: Stay open to industry shifts and be ready to pivot your skills accordingly.
Careers That Make 200K a Year is Common
In certain careers, a $200K annual salary is not an exception but rather a common expectation.
Positions in healthcare such as surgeons, specialists, and anesthesiologists often offer salaries exceeding this amount. Moreover, top-level executives, experienced lawyers, and investment bankers are typically in the higher income bracket due to the high stakes and demands of their industry. In tech, senior software engineers and IT executives with strong track records in hot markets like Silicon Valley can command these salaries, too.
Success in these careers requires a combination of advanced education, considerable experience, and sometimes, the right location.
Within these industries, focus on roles that are crucial to core operations, innovation, or revenue generation.
For tech, this might involve AI, machine learning, and cybersecurity. In finance, investment strategists and financial advisors are in demand. In healthcare, specialized practitioners command higher salaries whereas, in the legal field, corporate lawyers and litigators typically earn more.
Just to note… taxes will take a substantial amount out of your paycheck. So, you want to aim for $200k as net income.
Factor #2 – Climbing the Ladder: From Mid-Level to Top-Tier Positions
Transitioning from a mid-level position to top-tier status demands a proactive career strategy. Aim for roles that impact the company’s bottom line, such as project management or strategic planning, which often lead to executive positions.
Make sure to seek mentors who can offer guidance, and build a reputation for reliability and innovation. Networking within your industry can uncover hidden opportunities and give you a competitive edge.
Strategic Positioning: Focus on profit-impacting roles and responsibilities.
Career Growth: Network, seek mentorship, and demonstrate leadership capabilities.
Always aim to bring value to your organization, as this will be your leverage when seeking promotions and negotiating salary increments.
Factor #3 – Negotiation Tactics for a High Paying Salary
Securing a salary of $200k often hinges on your ability to negotiate effectively.
Begin the negotiation process by researching the standard salary for your position in your industry and region. Articulate your value by enumerating your accomplishments, experiences, and the results you can deliver.
Prioritize non-salary benefits that may be equivalent to a higher income, such as bonuses, commission, stock options, or flexible work arrangements. When discussing figures, aim higher to give room for negotiation.
Research: Know industry salary benchmarks.
Value Proposition: Clearly communicate your potential contribution.
Remember, negotiation is a dialogue, so listen carefully, be respectful, and maintain a professional demeanor throughout the process.
Factor #4 – Building Professional Relationships That Open Opportunities
Fostering robust professional relationships is key to unlocking high-paying roles, as connections can lead to opportunities that aren’t publicly advertised.
Networking is an art. It goes beyond just asking the question, “What do you do for a living?“
Actively engage with peers at industry events, be genuinely interested in others, and offer help before you ask for it. Maintain a positive online presence on platforms like LinkedIn, where you can connect with like-minded professionals and hiring managers.
Networking: Engage in industry events and platforms like LinkedIn.
Relationship Management: Nurture connections and seek meaningful interactions.
Don’t forget to nurture existing relationships – a recommendation from a trusted colleague can provide a significant edge in landing a coveted position.
Factor #5 – Cities and Regions with the Best High-Paying Job Markets
If you’re eyeing a lucrative salary, it’s strategic to consider the geographic landscape of high-paying jobs.
Major economic hubs like New York City, San Francisco, and Boston have dense concentrations of Fortune 500 companies and start-ups that offer competitive salaries, especially in finance and tech. However, these cities come with higher costs of living.
Comparatively, cities like Austin, Seattle, and Denver have burgeoning tech and business sectors with a more balanced cost of living.
Economic Hubs: New York City, San Francisco, Boston.
Balance Seekers: Austin, Seattle, Denver.
Consider looking for cities that have a vibrant job market in your industry, but a reasonable cost of living to maximize your income-to-expense ratio.
Factor #6 – Remote Work: A Gateway Being Global
The rise of remote work has opened a world of possibilities for professionals seeking higher salaries. You can work in a low cost of living country and still get a good income and save the rest.
With remote positions, you’re not limited by location and can work for companies with higher pay scales in stronger economies, practicing geographic arbitrage to your advantage. Sectors like tech, marketing, and design are ripe with remote opportunities that pay well.
Geographic Arbitrage: Tap into stronger economies and work remotely.
Global Accessibility: Utilize online platforms to access high-income roles worldwide.
To capitalize on this, enhance your digital presence, showcase your skills online, and engage with global job platforms. Also, consider the time zones and cultural work patterns of employers to ensure a smooth collaboration.
FAQs About Securing a 200K Job
A salary of $200k is relatively rare, with only a small percentage of U.S. households earning at this level.
According to recent statistics, 11.9% of U.S. households had an annual income over $200,000.1
However, this figure can vary significantly by industry, location, and level of experience.
This is 100% possible with the rise of technology and the internet.
To do this, you must focus on industries that value skills and experience over formal education.
Professions like real estate brokering, high-level sales, business entrepreneurship, or becoming a skilled tradesperson. You just need strong persistence.
The likely answer is typically one needs a grad degree or extensive experience in high-paying fields like medicine, law, engineering, or business.
However, specialized certifications, proven expertise, exceptional skills, or entrepreneurship can also be your ticket to this income level without traditional qualifications.
What Jobs Pay 200k a Year Interest You?
Now that you’re equipped with knowledge about reaching a $200k salary, consider which roles resonate with your skills and passions.
Maybe you’re intrigued by the challenge of a tech startup, or the idea of saving lives as a healthcare specialist is what drives you. Perhaps the strategic element of financial planning appeals to your analytical side, or the autonomy of forging your path as an entrepreneur is a calling.
Remember, selecting a profession that not only offers financial rewards but also aligns with your interests and values is crucial for long-term satisfaction and success. High tech degrees are highly sought after right now.
The great part about making this amount of money is you can increase your savings rate, but that doesn’t mean you should leave beyond your means.
There are plenty of avenues that will have you making over six figures quickly.
Source
Statistic. “Percentage distribution of household income in the United States in 2022.” https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/. Accessed February 28, 2024.
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After I wrote a simple primer on Roth conversions a couple weeks ago, several readers reached out asking for more details. A few specific snippets of those questions include:
I see many articles like this about lowering your tax bracket when doing Roth conversions. But, what about the amount of money that can be made by not doing Roth conversions and letting the taxable [sic: qualified, or not taxable] money grow in an account like an IRA or 401K? Is that math too hard to explain?
Sure your RMDs will be higher and you will be taxed more, but how much more money will you make by letting that tax deferred money grow? You could assume a rate of return at 6% for the illustration.
Kelly M., Question 1
A wise man once said “never pay a tax before you have to.” Back around 2015 I had the owner of an income tax service try to convince me to convert all my traditional IRA money to Roth. He said tax rates were going to go up and he was converting all of his own personal traditional IRAs. Fast forward to 2017 and Congress actually ended up lowering tax rates. I wonder what he thought about his conversions after that.
Anonymous, Question 2
Even with my spouse still working, I don’t think we’ll hit the IRMAA limits while I do Roth conversions before I take Medicare. But, could Roth conversions now help me avoid the IRMAA thresholds when I’m taking RMDs in the future? Or, is it worth doing Roth conversions to avoid the IRMAA thresholds? I’d be interested in an article like that.
Anonymous, Question 3
To summarize those three questions:
Does the math of Roth conversions really work?
But since we don’t know future tax rates, how can we confidently convert assets today?
What about IRMAA (the income-related monthly adjustment amount), which is an additional Medicare surcharge on high-earners?
Let’s address these questions one at a time.
Does the Math of Roth Conversions Really Work?
Roth conversions involve many moving pieces, as you’ll see in this simple Roth conversion spreadsheet.
Reminder: you can make a copy of the spreadsheet via File >> Make a Copy
There are terrific financial planning software packages that take care of this math. I wanted to present 95% of the good stuff in a free format that you all can look at. Hence, Google Sheets.
Nuanced Tax Interactions
Especially important is the interaction between normal income (via Traditional account withdrawals), capital gains, and Social Security. These taxes interplay in nuanced ways. A simple example:
Let’s say a Single retiree’s annual income is:
$5000 in interest income
$5000 in long-term capital gains
$30,000 in Social Security benefits.
If you plug that into a 1040 tax return, you’ll find that:
None of that Social Security income is taxable.
All of the interest and capital gains are enveloped by the Standard deduction
Resulting in zero taxable income and a $0.00 Federal tax bill.
But if we copied Scenario A and added in $30,000 in Traditional IRA distributions, what happens? I think we all expect that the $30,000 distribution itself must have a taxable component, but you might not know that:
The IRA distribution affects Social Security taxability. Now, $22,350 of the Social Security income becomes taxable. That’s right. Simply by distributing IRA assets, you’ve now increased how much Social Security you pay taxes on.
The Standard deduction still helps, but there’s now a remainder of $48,500 in Federal taxable income.
Resulting in a $5584 Federal tax bill.
It’s not the end of the world. Taxes happen. They pay for our public shared interests.
But part of tax planning is understanding ahead of time what your future tax bills will look like. It’s important to understand how taxes interact. And this is just a simple example!
Measuring Roth Conversion Benefits
Going back to this spreadsheet, you’ll three tabs full of retirement withdrawal math. The Assumptions tab contains important information on our hypothetical retiree’s starting point (e.g. $2.9M in investable assets), their annual spending ($100K), their future assumed growth (5% per year, after adjusting for inflation), and other important numbers.
Note – this math takes place in “the convenient world” where inflation is removed from the math.
Then three tabs are presented with different Roth conversion scenarios, described below:
“Baseline Calculations“
This tab shows a retiree not focused on any conversions
They want to leave to their children both Roth assets (if possible) and taxable assets (on a stepped-up cost basis).
Therefore, they attempt to fund as much of their retirement using Traditional assets as possible
“No Trad Withdrawals”
This tab shows a “worst case” scenario, to help bookend the analysis. This retiree is not pulling any funds from their Traditional accounts (unless necessary). Thus, we’d expect them to have large RMDs and large RMD-related tax bills.
“Reasonable Conversions”
This tab shows a “reasonable” Roth conversion timeline, electing to convert $1.7 million throughout their retirement, while funding their lifestyle using a mix of Traditional, Roth, and taxable assets along the way.
By no means is this “optimized.” But it’s reasonable, and better than the first two scenarios, as we’ll see below.
Pros, Cons, and Results
The three scenarios end up similar in multiple ways.
Our retiree never has an issue funding their annual lifestyle. This is of utmost importance.
Our retiree reaches age 90 (“death”) with roughly $5M in each scenario.
But there are important differences (as we’d suspect).
The Baseline scenario ends with $5.00M. Of that, 27% is Traditional, 35% is Roth, and 34% is Taxable. They’ve paid an effective Federal tax rate of 20.7% throughout retirement.
The No Traditional Withdrawal scenario ends with $5.20M. Of that, 63% is Tradtional, 0% is Roth, 37% is Taxable. They’ve paid an effective Federal tax rate of 18.8% throughout retirement.
The Reasonable Conversions scenario ends with $5.17M. 18% is Traditional, 68% is Roth, and 14% is Taxable. They’ve paid an effective Federal tax rate of 13.9% throughout retirement.
The Same, But Different
These three scenarios share many similarities. All three result in successful retirements. But there are important differences.
Our Roth converter paid far fewer taxes and, ultimately, left a majority of their tax dollars to their heirs via Roth vehicles, and thus tax-free.
The No Trad Withdrawal retiree paid 28% effective tax rates in their final years (only going further up in the future) and left 63% of their assets in Traditional accounts with a large asterisk on them.***
***TAXES DUE IN THE FUTURE*** …unless you’re leaving the Traditional IRA assets to, for example, a non-profit charity. But if you’re leaving the Traditional IRA to your kids, they’ll owe taxes when they withdraw the funds.
Long story short: Roth conversions work to your benefit when executed intelligently.
Should You Worry About Leaving Behind Traditional Assets?!
I don’t want to freak you out. Your heirs will appreciate you leaving behind a 401(k) or Traditional IRA for them.
But it’s worth understanding that they’ll owe taxes on that money (usually). Let’s dive into an example with simple math: a $1 million Traditional IRA left to one person (e.g. your child).
That person will most likely set up an Inherited Traditional IRAand (via new-ish rules in the SECURE Act) will have to empty that account by the end of the 10th year after your death. The withdrawals can be raised and lowered during those 10 years. Much like with Roth conversions, it makes sense to take larger withdrawals during otherwise low-income years and vice versa.
But if the beneficiary is in the middle of their career, a series of 10 equal withdrawals makes sense. Some rough math suggests ~$135,000 per year is a reasonable withdrawal amount (based on account growth over the 10 years).
That withdrawal is taxed as income for the beneficiary. If they’re already earning $100,000 per year of normal income, then taxes will consume ~$41,000 of their annual $135,000 withdrawal. State taxes might take another bite.
Again – I don’t want anyone to cry over the prospect of inheriting $94,000 annually for 10 years. Where can I sign up?! But it’s also worth understanding that 30% of this inheritance is going to Federal taxes.
“Never Pay a Tax Before You Have To”
What about Question #2 from the beginning of the article? A reader wrote in and suggested one should “never pay a tax before you have to.”
While pithy, it’s false.
If you can reasonably front-load low tax rates to prevent later high tax rates, the math supports you. What we’ve covered so far today is clear evidence of that.
Now, in the reader’s defense: I’d rather delay taxes if thedollar amounts are exactly the same. That’s one argument behind the tax-loss harvesting craze: I’d rather pay $100 in taxes in the future than $100 in taxes today.
But Roth conversions work differently. Done well, Roth conversions allow you to pay a 22% tax on $50,000 today to prevent a 37% tax on $100,000 in the future. It’s apples-and-oranges compared to the tax-loss example.
And perhaps the bigger lesson: there are few universal rules in personal finance. The pithy rule that works in one scenario (“never pay a tax before you have to”) might fail miserably in another scenario. Let the math guide you.
What About IRMAA?
Irma used to only be a name you’d give to the great-grandmother character in your 11th-grade B-minus fiction story.
No longer! Today, IRMAA has been given new life (which, I bet, was covered by Medicare!)
IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) is a Medicare premium surcharge imposed on higher-income beneficiaries in addition to their standard Medicare Part B and Part D premiums. The amount of IRMAA is determined based on an individual’s modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) and can result in higher healthcare costs for those with higher incomes.
In plain English: high-earners pay more for Medicare.
Question #3 today asked if Roth conversions can be used to avoid IRMAA premiums. The answer is: yes.
But first, how painful are these IRMAA surcharges in the first place?!
Important note: you’ll see below that the 2023 IRMAA brackets are based on 2021 modified adjusted gross income (MAGI). That same 2-year delay holds for future years. Your 2024 Roth conversions (or lack thereof) will be important in determining IRMAA in 2026
If a married couple’s MAGI in 2021 was $225,000, they’d end up paying $231 per month (or, more accurately, $462 per month for the couple) as opposed to $330 for the couple if they earned less than $194,000. That’s a difference of $132 per month or $1584 for the year.
I’m of two minds here. Because:
Yes, I believe in frugality. A penny saved is a penny earned. Why pay $1584 extra if you don’t have to?
But if you’re earning $200,000in retirement, do you also need to stress over a $1500 annual line item?
Personally, I’ll be stoked if my retirement MAGI is $200,000. It’ll be a sign that my financial life turned out unbelievably well. I won’t mind the IRMAA.
The people most likely to suffer IRMAA are also best positioned to deal with it.
Will IRMAA Get You?
The 2-year delay in IRMAA math means you might get IRMAA’d early on in retirement.
Imagine retiring at the end of 2023. The peak of your career! You and your spouse earned a combined $300,000 and now you’re settling down to mind your knitting. Like all U.S. citizens, you sign up for Medicare just before you turn 65.
Come 2025, Uncle Sam and Aunt IRMAA are going to look back at your 2023 income and surcharge you.
But the good news, most likely, is that your 2024 income is quite low in comparison and IRMAA will drop off in 2026.
Can Roth Conversions Help?
Remember: RMDs are forced and count as income, and that has the potential of “forcing” IRMAA on retirees as they age.
So to answer our terrific reader question: yes, Roth conversions can help here. You can use Roth conversions to shift the realization of income from high years to low years, preventing or mitigating IRMAA in the process.
But once more, make sure the juice is worth the squeeze.
If a 75-year-old has a $200,000 RMD that kills them on IRMAA, ask yourself: where does a $200,000 RMD come from? Answer: it’s coming from an IRA of over $5 million. Should someone with $5 million be losing sleep over IRMAA? I don’t think so.
That’s A Lot of Numbers…
A long and math-heavy article. I hope this helped you out! We covered:
Roth conversions can be objectively helpful, decreasing taxes in retirement and shifting large portions of portfolios from Traditional accounts (with potential taxes for heirs) into Roth accounts (no taxes for heirs)
Taxes in retirement are nuanced and interconnected. In today’s example, realizing extra income (via IRA distributions) also triggered extra Social Security taxes.
It’s not bad to leave behind Traditional assets to heirs. They’re getting a wonderful gift from you. But there will be taxes, which should be planned for.
There are many scenarios where it makes sense to pay taxes before you “have” to.
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Seniors who have employed some kind of home-based health care service have a higher acceptance and adoption of home-based hospice services, which can provide personalized support for end-of-life care, according to a study by Rutgers University’s School of Nursing. The findings were first reported by Hospice News.
Published in the Journal of Palliative Medicine, researchers found that the observed outcomes could stem from the identification of health issues that may complicate end-of-life care prior to engaging in it, making it easier for seniors to age in place in their own homes.
“Among all Medicare decedents in 2019, nearly half used home health care in their last three years of life, with close to 30% starting before their final year,” the study stated. “We found a strong association between home health care and hospice use at the end-of-life, and the effects were stronger in those without a diagnosis of dementia compared with those with dementia.”
Home health care providers, the study found, “identify terminal signs and support patients with chronic conditions, impacting decisions about end-of-life care.” But financial incentives also have the ability to impact the amount of hospice referrals, which could be of concern.
“Although our findings indicate that earlier home health care can lead to longer hospice care, especially in dementia patients, the potential for financial motivations in end-of-life care transitions raise concerns,” the researchers said.
But for those who are interested in aging in place — which by most accounts includes a majority of seniors — this correlation could represent ways in which remaining at home rather than going to a dedicated care facility might have benefits.
“The observed association between the use of home healthcare and hospice services underscores the importance of continuity of care, suggesting that home health care can facilitate aging in place and reduce the need for burdensome care transitions,” the researchers said. “It also points to the need for further research on how home health and hospice agency ownership affects referral patterns and end-of-life care utilization.”
The report primarily used data from Medicare recipients who died in 2019, assessing the circumstances of their deaths and whether or not they employed home-based care and hospice services.
Aging in place is a stated preference for a majority of older Americans, according to many dedicated surveys on the topic. Other recent data suggests that home-based health care is a leading outcome for older Americans.
Earlier this month, the Administration for Community Living (ACL) — a division of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) — announced the publication of a final rule that will update regulations for implementing programs under the Older Americans Act (OAA). One of the intentions of the rule is to better support the desires of older Americans to age in place in their own homes, ACL said.
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Welcome to NerdWallet’s Smart Money podcast, where we answer your real-world money questions. In this episode:
Learn how to utilize a tax advantaged 529 plan to help your or a friend’s children save for future education expenses.
This Week in Your Money: What are the risks of purchasing a home without an inspection? How can you plan for major expenses when healthcare providers can’t tell you how much their services will cost? Hosts Sean Pyles and Sara Rathner share their hot takes on unexpected financial challenges, with tips and tricks on handling surprise expenses, understanding the importance of home inspections, and dealing with healthcare industry inefficiencies.
Today’s Money Question: What are the benefits of a 529 college savings plan? Can you contribute to a friend’s 529 plan to support their child’s future? NerdWallet writer Elizabeth Ayoola joins Sean and Sara to discuss the essentials of 529 college savings plans. They discuss the types of educational expenses covered, the tax benefits associated with 529 plans, and the flexibility of choosing different state plans. They also answer a listener’s question about how to approach the sensitive topic of financial gifts for education with parents, sharing methods for contributing to a loved one’s 529 plan without overstepping boundaries. Then, they discuss the implications of the Secure Act 2.0 on 529 plans, methods for estimating necessary savings for a child’s education, and tactful ways to discuss educational contributions with parents.
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Sara Rathner:
Hey Sean, has money ever made you mad?
Sean Pyles:
Yeah, it has, especially when I get a bill that I don’t expect to pay but have to anyway. So yeah, why?
Sara Rathner:
Yeah. Yeah, those surprise major expenses are a huge pain. I just had to replace my washing machine because the fun never stops in my house.
In this episode, we are going to let off a little steam about what makes us mad in the world of money.
Sean Pyles:
Welcome to NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast. Our job today is to help you be smarter with your money, one money question at a time. I’m Sean Pyles.
Sara Rathner:
And I’m Sara Rathner.
So listener, this show is all about you and your money questions. So, whatever financial decision you’re pondering, whatever’s making you mad about your money, let us know.
Sean Pyles:
Leave a voicemail or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-NERD. Or you can email your questions to podcast@nerdwallet com.
Sara Rathner:
In this episode, Sean and I answer a listener’s question about contributing to 529 accounts for your loved ones. But first, we’re going to yell into the void in our semi-regular Money Hot Takes segment.
Sean Pyles:
So here’s how this works. Sara and I just rail against whatever we feel like in the world of money. And let’s put, say, 100 seconds on the clock. That’s what? A second for every penny in a dollar. I don’t know, it’s just an arbitrary number really.
Sara Rathner:
That works for me. It’s a nice round number.
Sean Pyles:
All right, Sara, are you ready?
Sara Rathner:
Sean Pyles:
I’m starting my timer. Go.
Sara Rathner:
All right. I hate the trend where home buyers feel pressure to completely waive getting a home inspection before buying a property. That’s different from the type of waiver where you’ll still do the inspection, but then you’re assuming the cost of anything you find. It’s when you just do without the inspection entirely.
I live in a block of houses that are like 107 years old, and two houses on my block sold with waived inspections where the buyers had to put tens of thousands of dollars unexpectedly into problems in their house that they didn’t know about. I just had a neighbor text me asking for a roofer because the first time it rained since she moved in her house, it started raining on the inside of her house, which means that the seller just lived with that for however long before selling the house and passing the problem onto somebody else.
So especially if you’re a first-time home buyer, if you are going to drain your savings to buy your house, and then you’re not going to have much money left for repairs, be really careful about this. And as a society, can we just make inspections mandatory? That’s more consumer-friendly, honestly. People need to know what they’re getting into, and frankly, people should feel pressure to keep their houses well maintained before sale. There I said it.
Sean Pyles:
You’ve got 40 more seconds if you want to keep on railing.
Sara Rathner:
Oh man, I do? Well, if you haven’t bought a home yet, what’s nice about getting an inspector involved is they’ll look at all the major systems of the house, the appliances, the roof, all sorts of stuff, the electrical, the plumbing, and they will tell you the lifespan of some of those major things like a furnace or a boiler, your roof, your HVAC system. And even if something is going to go in the next year or two, at least you have this laundry list of things and when they’ll probably need to be replaced, and you can begin to budget for those replacements.
Sean Pyles:
Okay, that’s 100 seconds.
Sara Rathner:
Boom. All right, Sean, you got any reaction?
Sean Pyles:
Well, I totally feel that, because buying a house without knowing what’s wrong with it is very risky financially. Buying a house can be financially risky in and of itself, depending on how expensive the home is. But imagine getting into the house, it’s your first day, you’re super happy to be a homeowner, and then you realize, oh, it’s raining inside the house, or the crawl space is infested with termites. You don’t know what you’re getting into if you don’t have an inspection. And even if it may make you a more competitive buyer, it isn’t worth it, in my opinion, to get yourself into something like that because you just don’t understand the risks you could be taking on. And I’m all about mitigating risks as much as possible.
Sara Rathner:
All right, Sean, I have had my turn, and now it is your turn. I have set my timer for 100 seconds. And go.
Sean Pyles:
Okay. Today I am mad about industries that are designed to extract money from us while making our lives miserable or at least really frustrating. And I have one, maybe two, examples depending on how far 100 seconds takes me.
First step is healthcare. Americans spend far more on healthcare than other wealthy nations. Nearly 18% of our GDP in 2021 went to healthcare. And what are we getting for it? An incompetent extractive industry that exploits nearly everyone that engages with it. Among wealthy nations, the US has the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality and excess deaths, not to mention the daily indignities that come with trying to access healthcare.
I have a recent example that is a microcosm of these larger issues. I recently got a bill in the mail for some regular lab work, and the thing is, I have these labs done every few months, and they’re always covered by my insurance. But this time I got a surprise bill for nearly $200, and I’d already had an expensive month with some car repairs, and I was not excited about the prospect of an additional $200 to cover. So I called my doctor, and they said, “Oh yeah, the company that does the lab work just messed up. Oops, just disregard the bill.”
So if I hadn’t called my doctor, I would have been on the hook for this bill. This was a relatively small bill as far as medical bills go, and it was fairly easy for me to clear up. I’m obviously very fortunate in this case, but for so many people, especially those with chronic illnesses or complex medical conditions, the onslaught of navigating insurance, verifying that you’re being billed correctly and then somehow coming up with the money to cover bill after bill is just totally exhausting and can make achieving financial goals nearly impossible.
So why am I going on and on about things that we already know too much about?
Sara Rathner:
Just so you know, you’re over time.
Sean Pyles:
Oh, God. I’m going to keep going. I’m almost done.
Sara Rathner:
Keep going, Sean. Let’s do this.
Sean Pyles:
All right. I am going on and on about this because I think it’s important to remind people that it does not have to be this way. We are in an election year, people, so I don’t know, let’s try to do something about it.
Okay, Sara, how many seconds was that?
Sara Rathner:
Oh, well I stopped timing it the second it hit the clock, so that might’ve been just an extra 10 seconds, honestly.
Sean Pyles:
Okay. It’s hard to fit so much into such a small amount of time.
Sara Rathner:
You know what? Your rage is such that it cannot be fit into a tiny container and that is valid. It’s okay to let the rage out and give it some more space.
I agree with you. What’s annoying is, for example, this past year I had a baby, and that is expensive to the tune for me of $7,000 out of pocket after insurance. Hi. $7,000 is a lot of money, people.
And what was annoying about that, and this is something for anybody who maybe is facing a planned medical procedure like a surgery or childbirth or anything like that, or who takes medication for chronic illnesses, I tried to call the billing department at the hospital to talk to my insurance company to say, “Can you at least give me an idea of how much money I will be out?” I knew going into it that I would be having a C-section. So I could say, “I’m having a C-section, that means I have to work with an anesthesiologist, which is an extra expense. Can you tell me ballpark, even if you’re off by a grand, how much should I budget for this?” And everyone’s like, “We don’t know.” Shrug emoji.
Then the bills just fly in for months and you think you’re done. So you’re like, “Okay, we’re done paying for the hospital bill. Now we can put our money into other stuff.” And then you get another bill for like, $1,100.
Sean Pyles:
And you have to question, was this billed correctly? Was it coded correctly? You don’t know. And it just flies in the face of all the things that we try to talk about in the personal finance space, which is around anticipating big expenses, budgeting for it, saving up for it if you can. It’s impossible when you don’t know what you’re going to be paying.
Sara Rathner:
Right, and if you’re facing surgery, what, are you just going to not have anesthesia to save money? Do not recommend.
Sean Pyles:
That is not a money-saving tip that we would recommend. No.
Sara Rathner:
No, that’s a place where you should spend good money, get good and numb.
But really it is an extra expense. And that’s so, so frustrating because you are not only out a lot of money, but you’re feeling kind of vulnerable because you’ve just gone through some medical stuff, even if it’s just blood work or something, and you want to take good care of your health, and it’s sometimes financially impossible to do that.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah. Not to mention completely demoralizing.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah, and some people just don’t go to the doctor because of the cost, or the dentist. And then years later, they’re faced with really serious health issues because they’ve been neglecting their health because of the cost.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah. I don’t know, it’s really tough in this space to talk about medical expenses because at NerdWallet and in the personal finance realm, we try to give actionable advice, and a lot of the time the advice is reactive. If you get a medical bill, you do have to ensure that it’s coded correctly. Maybe try to work out a payment plan with your medical office if you can’t cover the bill in one go. But it’s so hard to be proactive like you were just describing and understand what you’re going to have to pay if you want a routine procedure like blood work or something more significant like having a baby, makes me want to yell into the void all day every day.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah. Well, we took more than 100 seconds about this. If you have a body, then this is something that affects you, and it is really hard to deal with those extra unexpected costs.
Sean Pyles:
All right, so that is what we are mad about this week, listener. I know there’s a lot to be mad about in the world of money, so do not keep it in. Let us hear what you’re mad about, and we might just share it on a future episode.
You can text your Money Hot Take to us or leave a voicemail on the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-NERD. Or you can email it to podcast@nerdwallet com.
Sara Rathner:
All right, I don’t know about you, but my heart rate is starting to come down from all of that. Ooh, deep breaths, everyone. This episode’s money question is up next. So calm down too and stay with us.
Sean Pyles:
This episode’s money question comes from Lauren, who wrote us an email. Here it is.
“Hi nerdy Nerds. I’m not a parent. I’m never going to be a parent. Because of that, I have made it part of my financial plan to contribute to the 529 plans of kids around me. Because I don’t have nieces and nephews, I’m contributing toward the savings of my friend’s three-year-old. How much needs to go into a 529 starting at age two or three to cover a four-year private college?”
“I got the details on this kid’s 529 plan from his dad and started contributing about $100 a month. We didn’t talk about it. I intend to keep chipping in until the kid is done getting formal education 20 to 25 years from now. How do I talk to the parents? I want to understand if I’m helping enough without becoming privy to their private financial details. I also don’t want to make it seem like I have any vote whatsoever in how the kid charts an educational path. How do I broach this with the parents?”
Sara Rathner:
To help us answer this listener’s question, on this episode of the podcast, we are joined by NerdWallet writer Elizabeth Ayoola. Welcome.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Hello, and hi.
Sean Pyles:
Elizabeth, so good to have you on.
So let’s start by setting some groundwork. Can you please describe what a 529 college savings plan is, how they work, and why they’re such a big deal?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
A 529 plan is a huge deal indeed to me anyway. I wish I had one when I went to college because I was left with a huge bill. But anyways.
529s are tax advantaged college savings plans, and they allow people to save and invest money for education expenses. So, with that said, the money gets to grow, and it gets to compound, which can mean beneficiaries have a nice education pot to pull from when they need the money. And for those who don’t know what compounding is, it’s essentially when your interest earns interest.
Sara Rathner:
It’s the eighth wonder of the world.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Sara Rathner:
So you mentioned education expenses and that’s what the purpose of this account is, but what kinds of education expenses can you use a 529 to fund?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Funds in a 529 account can be used to cover a vast range of qualified expenses, and that can range from tuition to computers and education related equipment. The expenses can also be used to pay for education needs of your beneficiaries. And the good thing that I like is that the beneficiaries can be in anywhere from kindergarten through grade 12. So that said, it’s not only for college students.
Sean Pyles:
Right, that is a really good point because people hear about 529 accounts, and they think they may be specifically for people going through a traditional four-year education, but people can also use the funds in the 529 college savings plan to cover things like trade schools too. So it really isn’t only for that traditional four-year higher education route.
Sara Rathner:
So earlier you mentioned that 529s are tax advantaged accounts. Can you talk a little bit about the tax treatment of them, and what should people know when they’re considering opening a 529?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Well, one thing that I personally like about these accounts that some people don’t know also is that some states offer a tax deduction if you contribute to their plan. And when I say their plan, I mean the state that you live in. But there is no federal tax deduction for a 529 contribution. So it’s only at a state level. The tax deduction is usually capped. So no, you can’t just deduct your entire contribution. The deduction amount varies from state to state. So it’s best that you check in your state what the amount may be, if they offer it.
And a little bit off-topic, but I also like that the IRS doesn’t set a cap on your contributions to a 529 account, although some states do set a limit.
Sean Pyles:
And I’ll call out two other tax benefits of 529 college savings plans. The first is that investment growth in this account is tax-free, and second, distribution for qualified expenses like tuition or books are also tax-free.
Elizabeth, another important thing to know about 529 college savings plans is that each state has their own, and you don’t have to choose the 529 plan from the state that you live in. And this can all get a little bit confusing because there are so many states to choose from. So, at a high level, can you outline the main differences between a 529 from one state to the next, and how would someone go about choosing which state’s 529 plan to use?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
One of the major differences that people should know and a reason that people may cheat on their state’s 529 plan is lower fees. I personally have a 529 from a different state than my current home state for that very reason. So people should consider shopping around and comparing fees before opening an account. Ultimately, the goal should be to do some math and see whether the deductions and the credits that you’re going to get in the state that you live in are worth more than the lower fees that you could get in another state in the long term.
Also, note that you can open multiple 529 accounts. I have multiple 529 accounts. I recently opened a second one in my home state, Florida, because my son was awarded a grant and it could be transferred to a 529 account, but the catch was it had to be a Florida 529 plan.
Sara Rathner:
So 529s have some flexibility, which we talked about before, not just for four-year educations, but also for trade schools and for K to 12 expenses as well. And interestingly enough, 529s were just made even more flexible. Can you talk about recent changes around the ability to roll 529 funds into a Roth IRA, and what that means for folks who maybe aren’t considering going to college?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
The Secure Act 2.0 was recently passed, and if I can be honest, that’s what motivated me to open up my first 529 account, and I just opened it last year. I was always on the fence and only saved money in a brokerage account because I was afraid of what would happen if my son decided not to go to college in 15 years. He’s six, by the way.
I decided to get off the fence when the Secure Act 2.0 made it possible for people to roll at least a portion of the unused funds into a Roth account. However, you do have to wait until 15 years after you’ve opened the 529 account before you can roll those funds over. And you can also only roll up to a certain limit starting in 2024. It may be ideal to read the IRS’s rules, they have a lot of fine print around the conversion or speak to a finance professional about it.
I think Roths are also awesome because they aren’t subject to required minimum distributions and withdrawals. They’re also tax-free when you meet certain requirements like waiting until 59-1/2, amongst other rules.
Sara Rathner:
All right, well thank you for that great summary of the tax rules surrounding this new change. We just want to let you all know that we are not investing or tax professionals, and if you have any specific questions to your own situation, definitely consult a professional who can give you guidance.
Now let’s turn to the fun stuff. The math, Sean. I know that you are in the midst of your certified financial planner coursework. I have slogged through that myself. It is a lot. It is a lot of math.
Sean Pyles:
Sara Rathner:
And now that you know how to do it, I’m sure you’re eager to show off your chops. So are there any insights you can share that will help our listener figure out how much they need to save every month or every year to help their friends reach their savings goals?
Sean Pyles:
As a matter of fact, yes. And you’re right, I have been waiting for an opportunity to show off what I’ve been learning about because often I’m just doing calculations in silence and this is a time for me to be loud and proud about hitting buttons on a calculator. So let’s do it.
I’ll spare you and our listeners the specifics of the calculation, but I plugged the listener’s situation into a time value of money calculation and got a rough estimate for how much they will need to save.
Sara Rathner:
All right, drum roll. What’s the number?
Sean Pyles:
For our listener to meet the savings goal that they outlined in their question, remember, they want to save for four years of education at a private college starting now-ish and saving until the kid finishes school. They would need to save around $8,000 per year. Obviously, that’s a lot of money to contribute to a 529 account, no less for a kid who isn’t your own. And this is why 529s are often just part of the picture when it comes to paying for college, which usually includes some combination of scholarships, grants and loans and generous gifts from family friends.
Sara Rathner:
That is definitely more than a hundy a month.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah, that’s for sure.
All right, so all of that math out of the way, I want to talk about the other part of our listener’s question. They seem to be concerned about how much they should contribute and also how to talk about this with their friends. I am not a parent, so I would love to hear from both of you who are parents, how you would approach the situation if you had such a generous friend. Would you welcome the money, or say get out of my business? Or if you are going to accept this money, if you want to have this conversation with your friend, how would you want them to communicate that with you?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Honestly, I would welcome the money, especially because I’m a single mama. So as a matter of fact, my friends always contribute to my son’s savings account in London for his birthdays or holidays and I really, really appreciate it. It can be a better gift to me than toys that stab me in the foot within a few days.
Sean Pyles:
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I would also appreciate a friend asking me what my savings goals are, so they know how to support that goal. However, I do think, for the sake of boundaries, I would like my friend to ask me my comfort level with the topic before they dive in and start trying to give advice.
I think it’s also important to note that not everyone is comfortable discussing money or financial goals. But with that said, here’s an example of maybe how somebody could say it. So you may say, “Hey, I want to help you reach John’s college savings goal. Are you comfortable discussing that target number you have in mind, and can you tell me how I can support that?” Or another option could be you saying, “Hey, would you like to do the math yourself and then let me know how I can support that goal?” So those are just a couple of options.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah, I mean, I’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. College is expensive now, and it’s only going to become even more expensive in the future. Even in-state tuition, where I live in Virginia, is often over $20,000 a year. That used to be the economical way to get a four-year degree, and now it’s also very, very expensive. So what’s it going to be like by the time my kid’s in college? I don’t know. A lot.
Sean Pyles:
I think we can confidently say more money.
Sara Rathner:
Confidently, we can say a whole lot more money.
I would want my friends to decide for themselves what they feel comfortable giving, because I don’t feel comfortable telling another person how they should allot their money because they have other competing financial goals and obligations. And I never want to tell another person what they can do with their money unless they specifically ask me to tell them what to do with their money, which nobody ever asks me.
Sean Pyles:
And you also don’t want to give the impression that your friends can’t look after their own family’s finances, right? That’s a bit of the awkwardness underlying the question, is you want to help someone that you care about and this child that you’re seeing grow up in the world, but you don’t want to impose your will upon them. It seems like our listener is being very thoughtful about that. And you don’t want to make it seem like you think they aren’t doing enough.
Sara Rathner:
Right, or you think their kids should go to a four-year private university because that’s what you value, but maybe the parents have other values that they want to impart upon their child as the kid grows up, and then the kid will go off and do their own thing as a young adult.
In my case, we have a 529 for our son. We have family members who’ve contributed money. They’ve just written checks to us, and then we deposit it into our account that is tied to our 529 and then deposit the money into the 529.
Ultimately, when you contribute, you do go through the account owners, and that’s oftentimes parent or guardians. You are going to have to communicate with them because they’re ultimately the gatekeeper of that account. They are the owners, and then the child is the beneficiary.
Sean Pyles:
That actually brings up something that I wanted to talk about, which is who would own this account? The listener could in theory open up a 529 account on their own for this kid. But long-term, it’s probably going to be easier if the parents are the owners of the account, because that way when the kid is eventually ready to go to college or trade school or what have you, the parent can be the one managing those distributions.
Personally, I know as a friend, as much as I love my friends and my friends’ kids, I don’t want to have to manage that down the road. So that’s something else that they should think about when they’re talking about this with their friends.
Sara Rathner:
I definitely agree with talking to the parents and ultimately contributing to an account that the parents or guardians are in charge of.
Sean Pyles:
Well, Elizabeth, do you have any final thoughts around 529s and helping your friend’s kids afford college?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I think we have given some very juicy tips here and only two more things come to mind, which is one, while it’s noble to contribute to your friend’s kids or loved one’s kids’ 529 account, please take advantage of any state income tax deductions that you might be eligible for. The rules around this can be muddy. And I know the original listener who asked this question lives in a different state than where he’s contributing, but sometimes you’re able to get a deduction depending on the state that you live in. So if you can get money back, I mean, why not?
My second thing that I’ll say is that if your loved one doesn’t have a number in mind, guide them to a college savings calculator or run the numbers together over coffee if they’re open to doing that.
Sean Pyles:
Great. Well, thank you so much for coming on and talking with us.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I loved it. Thank you for having me.
Sean Pyles:
And that is all we have for this episode. If you have a money question of your own, turn to the Nerds and call or text us your question at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-NERD. You can also email us at [email protected].
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Sara Rathner:
This episode was produced by Sean Pyles and myself. Kevin Berry and Tess Vigeland helped with editing. Sara Brink mixed our audio. And a big thank you to NerdWallet’s editors for all of their help.
And here’s our brief disclaimer:
We are not financial or investment advisors. This nerdy info is provided for general educational and entertainment purposes and may not apply to your specific circumstances.
Sean Pyles:
And with that said, until next time, turn to the Nerds.
The set comes with one duvet cover and two pillow shams — be sure to grab a duvet insert if you need it!
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Get a set from Amazon for $27.99+ (available in sizes twin–oversized king and in 27 colors).