As the latest season of the hit reality competition series “The Circle” hit our screens, we couldn’t help but notice that something looks a little bit different.
And no, we’re not talking about the new AI bot that has entered the chat (sorry, Max).
The reality show has a brand new building, a whole new series of colorful apartments, and a fresh filming location set on American soil — stepping away from the UK filming location where all international versions of the dating series have been filmed up until now.
Season 6 sees contenders take residence in a Midtown Atlanta apartment building, with each of their units meticulously designed by art director Karen Weber, a reality series vet who also worked on America’s Next Top Model.
And she took extra care in designing each apartment, as well as the communal spaces the contestants get to enjoy while filming the Netflix production.
So let’s take a closer look at the Atlanta building that now houses the popular series, the colorful The Circle apartments and the design principles that brought them to life, and how you too can book a stay here — though your apartment might look a tad different than those the contestants live in.
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The Circle building is now the Sonder Midtown South, in Atlanta
Unlike previous seasons and all other international versions of the series — which all filmed in Northern England, at the 206-unit Adelphi Wharf building in Salford, UK, right outside of Manchester — Season 6 takes place stateside in Atlanta, Georgia.
Offering a fresh setting for the drama to unfold, the Sonder Midtown South apartment building at 126 Renaissance Pkwy NE in Midtown Atlanta serves as the main filming location for the hit Netflix series.
Designing the colorful apartments
Art director Karen Weber led the charge in designing the vibrant new apartments, housed in the Sonder Midtown South building.
With communal spaces like a retro launderette and a rooftop courtyard, Weber aimed to create distinct yet cohesive living environments for the players, each measuring approximately 1,200 square feet.
And this was no easy feat, especially while trying to emulate the bold, colorful aesthetics the series is already known for.
Each apartment has its own theme and decor
From bold color palettes to whimsical themes inspired by Barbie and Wes Anderson, the transformed spaces offer a Pinterest-worthy aesthetic that’s sure to catch the eye of viewers.
The apartments, given names like Glamour Room and Artist Loft, were curated with furniture and decor sourced from vintage shops and salvage yards around Atlanta, lending them a bespoke feel.
For some spaces, art director Karen Weber aimed to create “really bright high energy,” while other rooms were meant to feel “more adult, laid-back, and [a] little more restful,” she shared on Netflix’s blog. After all, the players actually had to live in the spaces throughout filming, so comfort is key.
And while the budget was the same for each apartment in the new The Circle building, creating a variety of spaces and aesthetics is paramount to the show’s success.
“Giving producers that kind of a range [of types of spaces] lets them figure out who fits where,” Weber added.
Design inspiration for fans of the series
But in Weber’s eyes, the apartments aren’t just for the players who inhabit them.
She also wanted viewers watching along to imagine themselves in the living spaces and perhaps inspire them to transform their own — either by stenciling something on a wall or spray-painting fish scales on a bathroom cabinet.
“I try to do a couple of DIY projects in each space that could be done by someone at home,” she says.
Re-designing 10 more apartments for the next contestants
As if Weber didn’t have her work cut out for her, as soon as she was done setting up the apartments for Season 6, she had to do it all again in preparation for the already-announced Season 7. For the upcoming season, another 10 new apartments had to be designed from the ground up.
“It’s the sandcastle theory, because you build this beautiful thing and then you let it all just get washed away and it’s done,” she says. “The rooms have their moment and then you have to move on.”
You can stay at the Atlanta building where The Circle filmed
While fans won’t be able to book a stay in the exact apartments seen on-screen, they too can book a stay in the building featured on the show whenever visiting Atlanta.
The Sonder Midtown South offers sleek and modern accommodations with amenities like a fitness center, outdoor grill, and in-unit laundry. And its colorful, imaginative makeover for The Circle only adds to the building’s appeal.
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It’s time to nurture nature with an eco-friendly home life.
In our fast-paced modern world, where technology reigns supreme and convenience is king, it’s easy to lose touch with the natural rhythms of the earth. But as we become increasingly aware of the impact of our actions on the environment, many of us are turning towards eco-friendly living not just for the planet’s sake, but for our own well-being too. Let’s explore how adopting a more sustainable lifestyle can not only benefit the environment but also improve our sleep and energy levels.
Exploring the connection: Sleep, energy, and the eco-friendly home
Sleep is a fundamental aspect of our health and well-being, yet many of us struggle to get enough quality rest each night. Likewise, low energy levels have become a common complaint in our caffeine-fueled society. But what does this have to do with the environment?
The answer lies in the intricate connection between our bodies and the world around us. Our sleep-wake cycle, also known as the circadian rhythm, is regulated by environmental cues such as light and temperature. When we disrupt these natural cues with artificial lights, electronic devices, and erratic schedules, we throw our circadian rhythm out of balance, leading to sleep disturbances and fatigue.
Furthermore, our energy levels are closely tied to our overall health and vitality, which in turn are influenced by the air we breathe, the food we eat, and the products we use. By prioritizing eco-friendly practices, we not only reduce our carbon footprint but also create a healthier environment for ourselves to thrive in.
Sustainable sleep practices
One of the first steps towards enhancing sleep and energy levels is to create a sleep-friendly environment. This means optimizing our surroundings to promote relaxation and restfulness. Here are some eco-friendly home tips to transform your bedroom into a sanctuary for sleep:
Natural materials: James Higgins, founder of Ethical Bedding, shares material matters. “Mindful purchasing and consumption means researching the companies you buy from,” Higgins notes. “Always choose organic (and plastic-free) wherever possible even if this means spending more. Spending a little more on higher quality products that are built to last will pay off in the long run.” Following Higgins’s advice and choosing organic bedding made from materials such as cotton, bamboo, eucalyptus, silk, or linen, which are not only gentle on the environment but also breathable and comfortable for sleep.
Chemical-free products: Avoid harsh chemicals and synthetic fragrances in your bedroom cleaning products and personal care items. Opt for natural alternatives to reduce exposure to harmful toxins that can disrupt sleep.
Mindful lighting: Embrace natural light during the day and minimize artificial light exposure at night, especially blue light from screens, which can interfere with melatonin production and disrupt sleep patterns.
Indoor plants: Incorporate indoor plants into your bedroom decor to improve air quality and create a calming atmosphere. Plants such as lavender, jasmine, and snake plants are known for their sleep-promoting properties.
Energy-efficient appliances: Invest in energy-efficient appliances and electronics to reduce energy consumption and minimize environmental impact. Hsin, with Nanani World, recommends this especially when it comes to lighting. “Switching to LED lighting from conventional incandescent bulbs can reduce energy consumption. LED bulbs last longer and are essential for lowering carbon emissions, which promotes environmental sustainability,” Hsin shares. Specifically, red LED lighting can enhance sleep quality and promote a quicker falling-asleep process, studies have found.
Disconnect from screens: Power down electronic devices at least an hour before bedtime to allow your mind to unwind and prepare for sleep. Sharon Bonner with Bright Ideas Event Agency shares her biggest wind-down tips. “No screen time 90 minutes before sleep and when sleeping, put devices in a Faraday bag to remove potential distraction,” Bonner shares.
Energize your day with sustainable living
Beyond improving sleep quality, adopting an eco-friendly lifestyle can also boost your energy levels and overall well-being. Here are some ways to energize your day while reducing your environmental impact:
Consider a plant-based diet: Incorporate more plant-based foods into your diet, such as fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes. Plant-based diets are not only environmentally sustainable but also rich in nutrients that can increase energy levels and support overall health.Caroline James, with Envirolineblog.com, shares how to further make the most out of your meals. “Sometimes people think that being eco-friendly is more expensive. However, one of my favorite sustainable tips is to plan your meals and write a shopping list at the same time,” James explains. “Something as simple as writing a shopping list helps reduce food waste by assessing what you already have rather than impulse buying. Planning your meals also saves you money when you don’t overbuy and inevitably throw food away.”
Stay hydrated: Drink plenty of water throughout the day to stay hydrated and maintain optimal energy levels. Invest in a reusable water bottle to reduce plastic waste and minimize your carbon footprint.
Re-read labels: A lot of household products are toxic and can negatively affect our health. Rachel Lincoln Sarnoff, former journalist and founder of Mommy Greenest, explains the dangers of certain household items. “When it comes to air freshening and candles (and cleaners, for that matter), avoid artificial fragrances, which can contain hundreds of chemical ingredients including phthalates linked to hormone disruption,” Sarnoff warns. “Unless a label lists the components of what scents the product — such as essential oils—then the word “fragrance” probably means it’s artificial.”Another household item to reconsider is non-stick pans. “[Non-stick pans] are coated with PFOAs that can be harmful to human health,” Sarnoff explains. “If you can’t afford to overhaul your set, start with those that are scratched, which are more likely to leach these toxic chemicals into your food, and replace pans with metal versions that don’t have a non-stick coating. You can have the pans sand-blasted down to a stainless steel base and either continue to use or recycle them.”
Get moving outdoors: Take advantage of the natural world around you by engaging in outdoor activities such as hiking, cycling, or gardening. Spending time in nature can reduce stress, increase energy levels, and foster a deeper connection to the environment.
Reduce, reuse, and recycle: Practice the three R’s of sustainability — reduce, reuse, and recycle — to minimize waste and conserve valuable resources. Valinda, founder of Green and Happy Mom, explains that opting for what you already own is the most eco-friendly choice. “Why buy a stainless steel bottle if your trusty plastic one still serves its purpose? The same principle applies to food containers, bags, and more. When considering a new purchase, explore secondhand options first, ” Valinda concludes. “Not only does this reduce the demand for new resources, but it also helps you save some money.” Emma Reed suggests finding reusable alternatives first and investing in them. “Whether that be reusable wipes for the home, a reusable coffee cup you can take out with you, reusable nappies/diapers for your baby, or beeswax wraps instead of clingfilm, there are many doable and handy options, Reed shares. “On top of being more environmentally friendly, they are also much kinder to your wallet too – it’s a win-win.”
Eco-friendly home: Other ways to cultivate a green oasis
Incorporating eco-friendly practices into every aspect of your home life can have a significant impact on both the environment and your well-being. Here are some overarching green living tips to help you reduce your carbon footprint and create a more sustainable living space:
Simple swaps: Jennifer Young with What’s Good suggests starting with swaps that impact your health first. “For example, your skin is your largest organ and absorbs 70% of what it comes in contact with — your feet absorb 100%! This means the first change is laundry, like clothing, sheets, and towels. Ditch the big plastic bottle laundry detergent and start using concentrated laundry strips or powders,” Young shares. “Both are plastic- and liquid-free which hugely reduces fossil fuel consumption. Plus, there are no synthetic fragrances, dyes, or other harmful chemicals that might interrupt your endocrine system or aggravate your skin. You can further protect your health and save energy by using dryer balls instead of dryer sheets or fabric softener.”Yalu Xu, with Momo Lifestyle, echoes this sentiment that embracing eco-friendly living starts with reevaluating household essentials. “There’s room for sustainability in unexpected areas, like bath mats. Traditional fabric bath mats require weekly washes, using over 2,000 liters of water each year, ” Yalu Xu shares.
“An innovative alternative is a product like Drytomita bath mat. Made from diatomaceous earth, these mats not only absorb and evaporate water quickly but also maintain their cleanliness and functionality like new for years, with simple sandpaper maintenance. It’s a testament to how sustainable choices can seamlessly integrate into, and enhance our daily lives.”Another simple swap, shared by Lamar with BRoadout is opting for reusable alternatives like cotton and choosing sustainable materials like bamboo. “Cotton and bamboo are both sustainable choices and both hold a pivotal role as one of our primary raw materials, featured in a wide array of products, Lamar explains. “Choosing sustainable cotton items for your home, like tents and chairs, or bamboo items like tables, is a thoughtful way to care for your loved ones and the environment.” Lastly, Alyssa Bolaños, founder and CEO of Oh-Eco.com, reminds us not to feel pressure to make all the swaps at once. “My number one tip for living more sustainably is to use what you have, then, get what you need – just the sustainable version,” Bolaños states. “As you run out of your household cleaners or items, swap them for a more sustainable version on your next shopping trip. So instead of a plastic toothbrush, switch to bamboo. Or instead of saran wrap, maybe reusable bowl covers or beeswax wraps. You don’t have to change everything overnight.”
Consider air purifying measures: Jen Stout, co-founder of Healthier Homes, explains the importance of air purifying measures. “Adding a portable air filtration system with UV/ion purification in your living and bedroom areas is well worth the investment,” Stout exclaims. “Something many don’t think about either is paint – look for paints that seal the surface and are zero VOC, to add beauty and color to your space, while keeping the air condition pristine.” Houseplants can also help filter toxins, add oxygen to the air, and contribute to healthy sleep.
Energy efficiency: Ecoclicky support team encourages homeowners to consider renewable energy sources. “Install solar panels to harness solar energy, reducing reliance on non-renewable power sources,” the team shares. “For those unable to install panels, choosing energy providers that offer green energy plans can be a great alternative.” The team also advises upgrading to energy-efficient appliances and LED lighting. “This cuts down on electricity usage along with remembering to unplug devices when not in use,” the Ecoclicky team notes.
By incorporating these overall green living tips into your home, you can create a more eco-friendly environment that benefits both your health and the planet.
Simplifying conserving and preserving the earth
As we reflect on our relationship with the planet, let’s remember that our actions not only shape the world around us but also impact our health and well-being. By embracing eco-friendly living practices, we can enhance our sleep and energy levels while safeguarding the environment for future generations. So, let’s commit to treading lightly on the earth and nurturing a sustainable lifestyle that benefits both ourselves and the planet we call home.
Wesley is a Charlotte-based writer with a degree in Mass Communication from the University of South Carolina. Her background includes 6 years in non-profit communication and 4 years in editorial writing. She’s passionate about traveling, volunteering, cooking and drinking her morning iced coffee. When she’s not writing, you can find her relaxing with family or exploring Charlotte with her friends.
The third and newest ship in the Virgin Voyages fleet is Resilient Lady, which was christened in 2023 and adds yet another bright red vessel to the high seas.
Virgin Voyages is an adults-only cruise line known for quirky modern design, entertainment that pushes the limits and exceptional, all-included specialty dining.
Virgin Voyages Resilient Lady destinations
The Resilient Lady’s home port is in Athens, and the ship sails itineraries in the Mediterranean for part of the year. Then, to reposition itself, the ship makes a transcontinental voyage that visits Dubai, India and Southeast Asia, before cruising on to Australia and New Zealand.
The ship also spends time in Europe, making stops in the U.K., the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal, among others.
Resilient Lady ship details
Don’t expect to find a lot of differences between the Resilient Lady and its two siblings, the Scarlet Lady and Valiant Lady — all three ships are nearly identical.
On the Resilient Lady, the nearly 2,800 passengers stay in just over 1,400 cabins across seven levels, ranging from solo rooms to large, impressive suites. Passengers also have access to amenities, restaurants and entertainment across another six decks, with a jogging track and yoga deck topping things off.
Expect to come aboard and find minimalist design, trendy music, lighting that changes throughout the day and a staff that sees entertaining as their raison d’etre.
Resilient Lady accommodations
The staterooms on the Resilient Lady are unique from the get-go. Instead of a traditional room key, cabins are unlocked using a bracelet made from plastic recovered from the ocean. Nearly all of the cabins come with balconies and many have a signature red hammock, allowing guests to lounge al fresco in privacy.
There are a handful of interior cabins without an ocean view. Social Insider cabins have bunk beds and are great for groups up to four, while Solo Insider cabins are smaller and perfect for the single traveler who doesn’t need a lot of space.
Both balcony and interior rooms typically have standard — and quite small — bathrooms with good lighting and wall-mounted Red Flower toiletries in the shower.
For a real treat, reserve one of the RockStar Quarters or the Mega RockStar Quarters. Some of these suites feature terrace whirlpools, living rooms and seaview showers.
Those lodged in RockStar Quarters and other suites are treated to a private area on one of the top decks known as Richard’s Rooftop. Here, the outdoor lounge serves complimentary drinks throughout the day, with live music at certain hours and whirlpools reserved for just these guests.
Other benefits of these cabins can include access to the spa’s thermal area, free laundry, comped minibars, and priority boarding. Roundtrip airport transfers are also available for these guests, and the largest suites have real guitars and amps for ensuite, self-made entertainment.
Rock Star Coordinators, otherwise known as cabin attendants, patrol the hallways of the most premium cabins to provide assistance in the room — making the bed, cleaning, helping with the ensuite record player or delivering room service.
In all staterooms, there’s an electronic tablet that controls the lights, temperature, shades, music and television. To provide extra space in some cabins, the beds can convert to a sofa during the day and revert back to a bed by night.
Resilient Lady amenities
There’s no shortage of things to do while sailing on the Resilient Lady. You can shop in the onboard boutiques, sunbathe by the pool, play basketball, enjoy arcade games, drink at the bars, test your boxing skills or relax at the spa.
The thermal spa area has steam rooms, saunas, a salt room, plunge pools, a beauty salon and spa treatment areas. Topless sunbathing is also an option on one of the upper decks.
There’s also an outdoor jogging track and free fitness classes on a fixed schedule. For a permanent reminder of your trip, visit the onboard tattoo parlor.
Resilient Lady dining
With more than 20 dining options on the ship, you can eat somewhere different daily and enjoy a variety of global cuisines.
The restaurants on the Resilient Lady are identical to those on Virgin Voyages’ other ships, and dining at all of them is included in the cruise fare. Unlike other cruise lines, you won’t pay extra to dine at specialty restaurants aboard Virgin Voyages, though some premium menu items may cost extra.
Instead of one main dining room or buffet, there’s a food hall — akin to what you might find in a high-end shopping mall — called The Galley, serving all kinds of prepared-to-order dishes. You’ll find sushi, ramen bowls, fresh salads, burgers, all-day breakfast choices, tacos, and even bento boxes with to-go goodies to take to the cabin.
Specialty restaurants include Pink Agave, a Mexican outlet with flaming skillets for fajitas and authentic fare from around the country; The Wake, featuring steak and seafood; and The Test Kitchen, serving up molecular fusion cuisine offerings. There’s also Italian cuisine, veggie-forward spots and more.
Other favorites include an ice cream bar, a carnival-inspired, 24-hour diner with popcorn and booze-infused milkshakes, and a Korean restaurant that has guests cooking barbecue and playing drinking games during dinner.
You can also pay for a dinner theater show — which includes a multi-course meal accompanied by acrobatic entertainment — or an afternoon tea paired with Champagne.
Resilient Lady beverages
One thing not included in the cost of sailing on the Resilient Lady is alcohol. There aren’t any drink packages like you’ll find on many other cruises. Instead, you can choose to pay in advance in the form of a bar tab, or as you go. If you choose to pre-pay your bar tab, you’ll get a bonus based on how much you spend.
There are numerous bars on the ship, from the rooftop pool bar to the ship’s own tap room, where you can order a beer growler to take elsewhere on the ship. And with the cruise line’s app, you can order a glass of Champagne to be delivered to you anywhere on board with just a quick shake of your phone.
For a pick-me-up, you can find all kinds of caffeinated brews at Grounds Club, and free Intelligentsia coffee is served in different venues on the ship. Travelers can also pay extra for cold-pressed juices and barista-made coffee drinks.
Resilient Lady nightlife and shows
The ship’s main hub for evening nightlife is called The Manor. Drinks flow constantly, and nightly acts include live music, comedy and even an adult-themed comedy show with audience participation. You won’t find Broadway-style musicals aboard, but there is a Greek history-inspired song and dance show.
There’s never a shortage of entertainment and talented staff perform all over the ship in bars and lounge areas, so don’t be alarmed if someone dressed as a passenger begins performing for you.
Known as “happenings” or “pop-up moments,” these impromptu improv acts add a bit of intrigue to the cruising experience.
For those who want to belt out some tunes, there’s a karaoke room. Also on the program are a casino, drag shows, fashion shows, bar crawls and even scavenger hunts.
You’ll find arcade games, themed parties (like the Scarlet Night evening) and a full roster of staff-led activities, from dance parties to pool parties.
You can keep an eye on everything by downloading the cruise line’s app or asking reception for a printed schedule. It’s easy to get around the ship since maps are posted everywhere, and the three sets of elevators are color-coded to help you know where you are (purple is at the front, blue is at the aft).
Resilient Lady inclusions
When sailing aboard Resilient Lady, you won’t pay extra for gratuities, Wi-Fi, specialty restaurants or onboard activities. However, you will have to pay extra for alcohol, destination excursions and upgraded Wi-Fi for streaming.
The cruise allows passengers to carry on board two bottles of wine per cabin at embarkation, but no liquor. This can help cut down on the cost of beverages during the sailing. Keep in mind that the drinking age changes based on where the ship is located — in the U.S. it’s 21, while in Europe and international waters the age is 18.
Resilient Lady is a treat
Virgin Voyages has managed to transform the traditional cruise experience into something both upscale, but playful enough, to appeal to all ages.
Rarely feeling crowded, the ship is hardly as large as some of the biggest in the world, and what you’ll find on this Richard Branson-born gem is exactly what you would expect from the daring British entrepreneur. Just be sure to pack an appetite, your dancing shoes and a Titanic-sized sense of humor.
(Top photo courtesy of Virgin Voyages)
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Virgin Voyages cruise line debuted its first ship, Scarlet Lady, in 2020. Founded by British entrepreneur and adventurer Richard Branson, this is not your typical cruise. To start, you must be at least 18 years old to sail on Virgin Voyages. And with plenty of restaurants, a food hall, a tattoo parlor and blush-inducing shows, Scarlet Lady has plenty to offer.
Following Scarlet Lady, Virgin Voyages added two other “lady ships” to its fleet — Valiant Lady and Resilient Lady. Here’s what you need to know when sailing aboard Virgin Voyages’ Scarlet Lady.
Scarlet Lady itinerary
Scarlet Lady really gets around. With a home port in Miami, the energy-efficient ship typically sails Caribbean itineraries, calling on ports in Mexico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, the Bahamas and more.
The cruise line also has a private beach club in Bimini, with swimming pools, restaurants, a beach area and activities. All Virgin Voyages cruises with Caribbean itineraries make a stop here.
Seasonally, the ship makes a trans-Atlantic crossing, sailing around the Mediterranean and visiting several ports in the United Kingdom.
Scarlet Lady ship tour
These enormous ships are designed for adult vacations, providing plentiful recreation and activity options for every type of traveler. Scarlet Lady has 17 decks and capacity for around 2,800 passengers in its 1,400 cabins.
Cabins demonstrate Virgin’s trademark “cool” design, with mood lighting, minimalist furniture, a slightly nautical twist in the decor, and distinct red hammocks on the balconies.
The majority of cabins have balconies, which gives this ship an edge when courting travelers. The premium cabins are the RockStar and Mega RockStar Quarters, which come in various configurations and designs.
The most glamorous suites have whirlpools on the terrace, separate dining and living areas, and larger bathrooms — some even have an outdoor shower. All suites boast a record player. Even the stateroom attendants bear a unique title: Rock Star Coordinators.
Booking a premium cabin and suite gives guests access to Richard’s Rooftop, an alfresco lounge and patio with sitting areas, an open bar, whirlpools and live entertainment. Other perks include airport transfers, priority disembarkation and boarding in ports, access to the spa’s thermal suite, free laundry and clothes pressing, and comped minibars.
Other cabin types include those with bunk beds (ideal for friends traveling together) and solo cabins.
When out and about, there are plenty of shopping opportunities, including the chance to get inked at the onboard tattoo parlor (the first of its kind on a cruise ship).
As you meander the ship, you’ll discover everything from basketball courts, a boxing ring and gym equipment to a spa with a thermal area and relaxation nets that dangle over the sea.
Private deck cabanas at Mediterranean eatery The Dock feature day beds that look out toward the ocean, and ample lounge chairs ring the party-centric pool, where staffers circle with drinks.
In addition to a menu of spa services, there are also saunas, steam rooms, a salt room, a mud room, a beauty salon and plunge pools. Once the sun sets, a DJ sets up shop to create a party atmosphere in the same space.
One quick shake of your mobile device when using the onboard app summons an attendant with Champagne.
Scarlet Lady dining
Instead of one main dining room, there are individual restaurants and a food hall with dining options at all hours.
In the food hall, there are also takeaway bento boxes with snacks like sushi, fresh fruit, salads and sandwiches. Other options include a burger bar, a taco shack, a sushi station and a ramen shop. It’s all included in the cruise price, and everything is made fresh to order.
Among other dining options on the ship are a Korean barbecue eatery, a steak and seafood cafe, molecular fusion cuisine where dishes are served in opulent style with a scientific twist (think test tubes and beakers for some dishes), Italian, Mexican, a pizza bar and an all-vegan/vegetarian option.
There are several bars on board, including a tap room called the Draught Haus, which offers an array of beers on tap and by the bottle. Among the options in the Draught Haus and elsewhere on the ship is Virgin’s own bespoke beer, an English Pale Ale with a hint of red, brewed by Miami’s Wynwood Brewing Company.
Made-to-order barista coffee from Intelligentsia is available, and there’s a cold-pressed juice bar for those looking for a healthy refreshment.
Scarlet Lady bars, nightlife and shows
For entertainment, passengers can head to The Manor, a multi-bar nightclub with a ’70s punk vibe, which features a rotating line-up of comedy acts.
The party atmosphere lasts late into the night. As you wander the ship, keep an eye out for “Happenings,” the unscheduled improv acts and performances that the staff do to spice up things when you least expect it.
Other destinations for activities include a karaoke room, a casino, a private gaming area, a poker room, a cinema and a record store. The occasional fashion show also takes place on board.
One thing that Scarlet Lady does not offer is the typical stage show with singers and dancers performing to a prerecorded soundtrack. The onboard entertainers do, however, sing and dance by the pool, in the nightclub and on the stage.
There are no Broadway-style shows, either. Instead, look for solo performers in various bars and by the pool. The space is carefully curated so that no matter where you are, there is something to enliven the atmosphere (whether through art, design, music, or simply the view).
The bottom line
Sailing with Virgin Voyages is not your standard cruise experience. While the adult-themed onboard vibe is playful, this is not the jam-packed ship with waterslides and bingo cards some might imagine.
Step aboard with an open mind and some knowledge of Richard Branson’s Virgin Group brand track record, and you’ll be sure to enjoy a different type of cruise vacation.
(Top photo courtesy of Virgin Voyages)
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Do you want to learn how to move out at 18 with no credit, little money, or even no money? Here’s what you need to know. There are many reasons for why you may want to move out at a young age – perhaps you have a difficult home life, you want to move somewhere…
Do you want to learn how to move out at 18 with no credit, little money, or even no money? Here’s what you need to know.
There are many reasons for why you may want to move out at a young age – perhaps you have a difficult home life, you want to move somewhere new, or you just want your own space.
I moved out shortly after turning 18 (about a week or so after my 18th birthday) into a rental home, and while I was not prepared at all, I do think being prepared to move out at a young age is extremely helpful. I made many mistakes that led to many, many tears, money wasted, stress, and more.
Today, I want to help you avoid as many problems as you can.
After all, moving out at 18 years old (or any other young age) is already really hard, and there is such a huge learning curve.
Moving out when you turn 18 is a big step into becoming an adult. Even though it can be exciting, moving out for the first time needs to be planned carefully. Before you leave, it’s important to make a plan to make sure you can afford it and stay on your own.
This means finding a job, making a budget you can stick to, and saving money for unexpected costs.
How To Move Out at 18
Below are ways to move out at 18.
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Make a plan to move out at 18
I highly recommend having a plan if you want to move out at 18 years old.
Moving out at 18 is a big step, and making a plan will help everything go a little more smoothly.
You will want to think about things such as:
Where you will work
How you will pay your bills
If you will live with a roommate or on your own
What your budget will be like
What you’ll do if things get tough, such as if you can’t afford your rent
What you will do for health insurance and medical bills
And so much more.
I will be going further in-depth on many of these below.
Find ways to make money
If you are 18 and want to move out, then you will need to have a stable source of income, of course. There are many options for earning money, from traditional jobs to more flexible side hustles.
A full-time job typically gives you more hours and benefits like health insurance, which are helpful when you’re living on your own. If you have other things going on, a part-time job might be better because it offers more flexibility while still giving you money (but, you may not earn as much money). You can find job openings online, at job fairs, or on community bulletin boards. Jobs like delivering food can be either full-time or part-time, and companies tend to need people.
If you want to make more money, you can side hustle to make extra income – a way to make extra cash that you do alongside your main job. You could freelance by doing things like writing, teaching tutoring lessons, or designing graphics. Or, you could babysit for families nearby, walk dogs, or help people with tasks or errands. These little jobs can add up to a lot of money and give you the flexibility to work when you want.
When I was young and first moved out, I worked full-time at a retail store. I also eventually started a few side hustles (like blogging, freelance writing, and selling stuff online) so that I could pay off my student loans quickly. Living on your own is not easy, especially when you are young and your income is not that high – so side hustles may be needed so that you can make enough money to pay your bills.
Some helpful articles to read include:
Create a budget
When you’re ready to step out into the world at 18, you need a budget. I can’t think of any young adult who would not need a budget.
Budgets are great because they help you keep track of your money coming in and going out. With a monthly budget, you’ll know exactly how much you can spend on different things each month as it helps you see how much money you have and where you might need to cut back on spending.
A budget will help you to figure out if you can afford to live on your own, if you need to have roommates, or if you need to find a cheaper living arrangement.
Making a budget is easy. First, write down how much money you make each month from your job or other places. Then, write down what you need to spend money on each month, like:
monthly rent
food
phone bill
internet
car
fuel
utilities like electrical, water, trash, sewer, gas/propane
car insurance
medical/health
pet care
restaurants
cable, satellite, or any TV monthly subscriptions
household essential items, like toilet paper, trash bags, etc.
and some money for fun stuff too
Knowing your monthly expenses will help you to better manage your money so that you won’t go into credit card debt.
Recommended reading: The Complete Budgeting Guide: How To Create A Budget That Works
Save for the move (and open a bank account)
When you’re getting ready to move out at 18, saving money is obviously very important. If you can help it, I do not recommend moving out with no money saved.
Think about all the costs you’ll face – like rent, your first security deposit, food, and any unexpected things that pop up. You’ll want to tuck away money for this.
How much should you save to move out? A good rule is to save at least three to six months of living expenses. For example, if you spend $1,500 a month, aim to save between $4,500 and $9,000 before you head out on your own.
This will be your emergency fund. An emergency fund is money you save up for unexpected things that might happen. This could be paying bills if you lose your job or if your hours or pay get reduced. It could also cover unexpected expenses like a car repair, medical bill, or fixing a broken window.
An emergency isn’t something like buying a birthday present, a new TV, or going on vacation.
Having an emergency fund is smart because it can stop you from getting into debt you don’t need. Some people rely on their credit cards for emergencies, but that’s not a good plan.
I also recommend getting your own bank account for all of the money you save. It’s a safe place for your money, and it helps you track what you earn and spend. Plus, you’ll need it for things like direct deposit from jobs or paying bills online.
I personally use Marcus by Goldman Sachs for my savings account as they have a very high rate. You can get up to 5.50% at the time of this writing through a referral link bonus. According to this high-yield savings account calculator, if you have $10,000 saved, you could earn $550 with a high-yield savings account in a year. Whereas with normal banks, your earnings would only be $46.
Improve your credit score and history
When you’re moving out of your parents’ home, having a good credit score is super helpful. This is because your credit score and credit history may be used for things like getting approved for an apartment and getting signed up for utility bills.
If your credit score is low, then you may be denied an apartment and even have to pay large deposits to get signed up for utilities (like water and electric).
Here are some important things to know:
Understand credit utilization – This is all about how much credit you’re using compared to how much you have. Try to use less than 30% of your credit limit. Say your card has a $1,000 limit. Aim to spend no more than $300.
Always pay on time – You should pay every bill on time, every time. Even being a little late can hurt your credit score a LOT!
There are other ways to improve your credit, such as by getting a secured credit card or becoming an authorized user on a family member’s credit card.
Here are two really helpful articles I recommend reading:
I also recommend keeping an eye on your credit by checking your score and report. Sites offer free checks, and it’s good to know where you stand. That way, you can fix any mistakes fast.
Think about where you’ll live
When planning to move out at 18, picking where you’ll live is a huge step.
Here are some things to think about:
Think about who you’ll live with. Living by yourself can be expensive so sharing rent and other bills with roommates can save you money, but make sure you choose your roommates wisely. You’ll be sharing your space with them, so it’s important to pick people who are responsible and trustworthy (and will actually pay the bills!).
Try using online tools to compare different areas. You can check things like crime rates, public transportation options, and how close they are to places you need, like grocery stores.
Think about the cost. Can you pay the rent and utility bills every month? Make sure to include these costs in your budget. Sometimes, living a bit farther from popular areas can be cheaper.
For my first home, I rented a very small 400-square-foot home with no real bedroom. But, it was within my budget and next to my college (I lived a few miles away), and surprisingly affordable.
Talk to your parents
When you’re getting ready to move out at 18, it’s important to have a conversation with your parents. This might feel hard or even impossible, but remember that clear communication is important.
I recommend choosing a time to tell them when your parents aren’t too busy or stressed as having this conversation when everyone is relaxed can make it easier for everyone to talk openly.
I think it is also helpful to think about how your parents might feel. If you’re the first to leave the home, they might find it tough. Try to understand their perspective and mention that you’ll stay in touch and visit.
And, be ready to show them your plan. Your parents will want to know you’ve thought things through. If you’ve been saving money, let them know. Talk about your job and how you’re managing to support yourself. It’s good to tell them about the place you’re planning to move into and how you chose it.
How to move out of your parents if it isn’t safe
So, after reading the above, I know that some of you may not have a good home life. You may not feel safe telling your parents that you are moving out.
If that’s the case, then I recommend reading this section.
Sometimes, home isn’t the safe place that it’s supposed to be. If you’re in a tough situation and need to leave at 18 but can’t talk to your parents about it, you’re not alone.
Here’s what you can do:
Find an adult you trust – Look for someone you trust, like a teacher, counselor, or family friend. They can maybe give you support and help you figure out your options.
Plan ahead – Start thinking about where you’ll go and how you’ll support yourself. Look into shelters, transitional housing programs, or staying with a trusted friend or relative.
Know your rights – As you turn 18, you have rights. Learn about your options for housing, education, and employment because there may be resources available to help you.
Stay safe – If you’re in danger at home, prioritize your safety. Contact local authorities or organizations that can help you leave safely.
Take care of yourself – Moving out can be tough, but remember to take care of yourself emotionally and physically, such as by talking to friends, finding support groups, or talking to a counselor if you need to.
Leaving home at 18 without being able to talk to your parents is hard, but it’s not impossible. Reach out for help, make a plan, and remember that you deserve to live in a safe and supportive environment.
Get free stuff for your new home
One of the big challenges of moving out on your own is affording all of the different things that you need.
Luckily, there are ways to get things for free or really cheap.
Some of the top ways include:
Facebook Buy Nothing groups – This is my favorite place to start if you want to get things for free. These groups promote recycling and reusing items instead of throwing them away when you’re done with them. To begin, look for and join a local Buy Nothing group on Facebook. You can search for groups for your city. People list their free stuff all the time, such as furniture, electronics, clothes, and more. You can even make a post asking if anyone has something that you need.
Ask family and friends – Your family and friends might have extra stuff they’re willing to part with. They might even be happy to see it go to a good home – your new home!
Check online platforms – Websites like Craigslist, Freecycle, and Facebook Marketplace can be goldmines for free furniture. People often list items they want to get rid of quickly.
Visit thrift stores and yard sales – Thrift stores and yard sales sometimes offer “free bins” or low-cost items they want to get rid of fast.
Attend college move-out days – If you live near a university, go there on move-out day. Students tend to leave behind perfectly good furniture that’s yours for the taking.
Community centers and churches – These places often have bulletin boards with listings for free items.
Always be safe when arranging pickups, especially with strangers. Always bring a friend or let someone know where you’re going.
Helpful articles:
Handling utilities and bills
Dealing with utilities and bills is a big step in moving out. Utilities are services you need like water, electricity, gas, and the internet.
Before you move, call or visit the websites of local utility companies. You’ll need to set up accounts in your name. This might include a deposit fee, so be ready for that.
I recommend making a list of all your expected bills. Rent, electricity, water, internet, and maybe gas are usually the basics. Add them up to see how much you’ll spend each month.
After you move in, you will want to find out when each bill is due. It’s your job to pay them on time as paying late can lead to extra fees or even getting your services turned off. Some companies let you set up automatic payments, and this means the money comes out of your bank account on its own each month. This can make sure you’re always on time.
You will want to hold onto your bills and receipts. This way, if there’s ever a mistake with a bill, your records will help fix it.
You can save money by being smart about using your services. Turn off lights when you leave a room and unplug electronics that you’re not using. You might also shop around for better deals on services like the internet.
After you get your first set of bills, you will understand why your parents wanted to keep the air conditioning off or why they always asked you to turn the lights off – things can be expensive!
Also, remember that different times of the year will impact your bills. For example, your electric bill will most likely be a lot more expensive in the summer than it will be in the spring or fall.
Maintain your home (housekeeping)
Moving out at 18 means taking on the responsibility of housekeeping. You might be surprised how quickly your new home can become cluttered and get dirty.
Keeping your home nice starts with regular cleaning, and I recommend setting aside some time each day for tasks like washing dishes, making your bed, and tidying up the living area. This way, messes won’t pile up and become overwhelming.
Then, once a week, dedicate your time to deeper cleaning such as vacuuming, mopping floors, cleaning the bathroom, dusting, and doing laundry.
Housekeeping also requires tools and supplies, so you will want to plan your budget to include items like sponges, cleaners, and trash bags.
Make friends in your new community
Moving out at 18 is a big step, and making friends in your new community is important. It can make your new place feel like home. When you move, you might not know many people, but there are fun and simple ways to meet people.
Here are some tips:
Get to know your neighbors – Start with a smile and say hi to your neighbors.
Join local groups or classes – Look for groups that interest you. Love to paint? Find an art class. Enjoy cooking? Maybe there’s a cooking group nearby. Like rock climbing? Go to the local climbing gym. This way, you meet people who like what you like.
Visit community centers – Many towns have a community center. They have activities like sports, games, and events.
Making friends might take time, but it’s totally possible! Just be yourself and be open to talking to new people.
Balancing work and personal life
I’m guessing you will have a lot going on, between trying to work full-time and enjoying your life, and even possibly furthering your education.
I recommend trying to schedule your time so you don’t get too busy. Use a calendar or app to make sure you’ve got time for work, taking care of your place, and doing fun things too.
It’s okay to say no if you’re too busy. If you’re working a full-time job, you might not be able to hang out with your friends all the time. It’s all about finding a healthy balance between earning money and enjoying life. I had to say no to my friends many times because I was simply too busy. If your friends still live at home, it may be hard for them to understand this unless you explain your situation.
Plus, remember to take breaks. When you’re planning your week, set aside some time just for relaxing. Watching a movie, reading, or hanging out in the park are all great ways to unwind and give your mind a break.
Frequently Asked Questions
Below are common questions about how to move out at 18 years old with little money.
How can I move out fast at 18?
To move out quickly, focus on making a steady income and finding affordable housing. Create a budget to manage your expenses and look for immediate job openings or housing options. Saving as much money as you can right now is also super helpful.
How much money should I have saved by 18 to move out?
Aim to save at least 3 to 6 months of living expenses before moving out. This safety net can cover rent, groceries, and unexpected costs, giving you financial stability as you start on your own.
Can you move out at 18 while still in high school?
Yes, you can move out at 18 while in high school, but make sure you have a support system in place. Balancing school responsibilities with living independently can be very hard.
How to move out at 18 with strict parents?
When moving out at 18 with strict parents, communicate your plans clearly and respectfully. Prepare a well-thought-out plan to show them you’re serious and capable of managing your own life.
Can your parents not let you move out at 18?
When you turn 18, you’re legally an adult in most places, and you can decide to move out even if your parents don’t agree. However, it’s important to respect their opinion and explain your reasons. There are some places where you have to be older, so make sure you do your research.
Do I have to tell my parents I’m moving out?
While you’re not legally required to inform your parents in most places, it’s nice to talk about your decision with them, as transparent communication helps maintain a positive relationship after you leave.
Can I move out at 18 without parental consent?
Yes, in most places, at 18 you’re legally permitted to move out without parental consent. You will want to make sure this applies to your local area.
What things do you need when moving out of your parents’ house?
There are many things that you will need to move out of your parents’ house such as a bed, blanket, pillow, kitchen supplies, towels, a place to eat, a dresser, cleaning supplies, groceries, and more.
Is it realistic to move out at 18?
It is realistic to move out at 18 if you have a reliable income, a budget, and a plan for handling responsibilities. You will want to be as prepared as possible to move out at a young age because there will be many hurdles thrown your way, most likely.
How To Move Out At 18 – Summary
I hope you enjoyed this article on how to move out at 18 years old.
It’s really important to have a plan for a successful move when you are just 18 years old.
You’ll need to find ways to earn money regularly, like getting a job and even doing extra work on the side.
Having savings in the bank and an emergency fund will help you handle unexpected expenses without ruining your plans.
There are also many other things to think about, such as the cost of living, utility bills, your credit score, and more.
I moved out when I was just 18 years old, so I completely understand where you are coming from. I had no financial help from my parents and found and did everything on my own – from making money to finding a place to live, making all of my own meals, and more. It was hard, but it was what needed to be done.
Do you plan on moving out soon? Do you have any questions for me on how to move out at 18?
I like interesting stories and I like interesting houses. I also like to believe I tell the former and have the latter. (Don’t we all?) So, when a book titled “Authentic Interiors: Rooms That Tell Stories” (Gibbs Smith, March 2024) hit my radar, I thought, “Shazam! My worlds collide!”
I dove into the 224-page, picture-rich hardcover, then rang up the author, interior designer Philip Gorrivan, to see if I could divine the secret to designing rooms that tell not just stories, but our stories. (Face it. Despite what they say, a lot of designers tell their stories.)
In his introduction, Gorrivan cites the 20th-century designer David Hicks who said, “The best rooms have something to say about the people who live in them.” The book then goes on to feature 14 client-inspired projects including the author’s own house.
“If you’re going to design your home, whether a grand house or a shoebox apartment, whatever the budget, make sure your interior space is an extension of who you are,” he said. “This, after all, is where you come home, sleep and live.”
Few would disagree. However, this is one of those easy-to-say, harder-to-do design maxims. In the wrong hands, the result could be ghastly. Some people’s stories just aren’t pretty. I turned to the pages for clues. For one couple — a screenwriter and newspaper editor — Gorrivan used posterized black-and-white images of famous faces. For a Brazilian couple’s New York apartment, he incorporated saturated tones from the tropical rain forest, painting walls in a lacquered emerald and incorporating fuchsia furnishings.
As with any author I interview, but especially this one, I was curious to learn the writer’s story. Where is he coming from? So, I asked Gorrivan, who has a house in Connecticut and an apartment in Manhattan, that and a few more questions:
Marni:Before we talk about other people’s stories, what’s yours? What was your early home like?
Philip: Because my parents had different interests, our house was a mix of antiques and modern furnishings. It was by no means “decorated.” We lived in Portland, Maine, where we had these long bleak winters. My family had this old farmhouse, which became a repository for family hand-me-downs and heirlooms. To amuse myself, I spent hours exploring all these pieces. I became visually tuned into furniture at a young age. I may have been the first 10-year-old to ask for a subscription to Architectural Digest.
Q: Interior design wasn’t your first career. When and why did you switch?
A: After college, I worked in sales, got married, had children and was working to pay the bills. When 9/11 hit, we were living in New York. It made me rethink everything. I decided then to do what I loved. I went to work for an interior design firm to learn the ropes, and after two years went out on my own. My break came when House & Gardens magazine asked me to design a room for a show home they were putting together. They had one room left, a 12-by-8-foot laundry room, the smallest room in the house. I made the most of it.
Q: Although your rooms tell your clients’ stories, you clearly have a signature look. How would you describe it?
A: I come from a love of textiles and fabrics, color and pattern. I like to align with great design firms of the 20th century to create a look I call classic modern, a mix of periods that speak to both the home and the homeowner.
Q: Color indeed! Not everyone can pull off Chinese red lacquered walls.
A: While I have a lot of respect for neutrals and earth tones, I especially like mixing in strong color. Color is powerful and transformative. The chapter titled “Reinvention,” for example, features a New York apartment we made over after the owner got divorced. He was living in the same place he’d shared with his ex-wife and wanted it to feel completely different. Painting the walls bright spring green felt like a new beginning.
Q:Beautiful interior design books cover coffee tables everywhere. Why another one? How is your book different?
A: The word “authentic” is in the title because it’s important to me. We see a lot of pastiche in the design world, where designers copy and paste the work of others. Authenticity is critical in any creative endeavor. I wanted to convey that and emphasize that a successful interior should speak to the architecture of the house or apartment, to the surrounding geography, and ultimately to the homeowner.
Q:What if the homeowner is a couple with different interests and tastes?
A: Every couple disagrees on looks. We negotiate. A successful home design includes elements that reflect all inhabitants, which ultimately makes the interior even more unique.
Q:What makes you cringe when you walk into some homes?
A: Furnishings that are totally out of scale. A sofa that is way too big or art that is too small can ruin a room.
Q:How can we inject our story into our homes, whether that reflects our professions, interests or heritage?
A: Think of what you love and want to surround yourself with: your children, your pets, your travels, your roots. It may not be your profession. Some clients don’t want any reminders of their work once they get home. And you’d be surprised how many want to decorate using the colors of their favorite sports team. Heritage also matters. I always want to know where my clients grew up.
Q:What do you want readers to take away?
A: Though the book is filled with pictures, I hope readers look at the words, too. I hope they read the different stories and see how stories can come alive in design. I hope they see how the best designs come from the inside out, and come away thinking, maybe I can do this, too?
Marni Jameson is the author of seven books including the newly released Rightsize Today to Create Your Best Life Tomorrow, What to Do With Everything You Own to Leave the Legacy You Want.
“Authentic Interiors” by Philip Gorrivan (Gibbs Smith, March 2024, $45, 224 pages) “provides much to savor,” says Publishers Weekly. Photo courtesy Gibbs Smith. (Handout via Marni Jameson)
Looking for the best business ideas for teens? Whether you’re a teenager trying to find ways to make extra money or if you’re a parent trying to help your child start a business to learn about money, there are many positives of starting your own business young. Whether it’s in the summer, after school, or…
Looking for the best business ideas for teens?
Whether you’re a teenager trying to find ways to make extra money or if you’re a parent trying to help your child start a business to learn about money, there are many positives of starting your own business young.
Whether it’s in the summer, after school, or on weekends, having a small business can be a fun and educational thing to start.
I did many different things as a teen to make extra money, and they all taught me so much. There are many different ways for teens to make money, as you will learn below.
Best Business Ideas for Teens
There are many business ideas for teens listed below. If you want to skip the list, here are some ways for teens to make money that you may want to start learning more about first:
Below are the best small business ideas for teenagers to start.
Recommended reading:
1. Babysitting
Babysitting is an obvious job for teenagers, and it can be a great way to make money. I was a babysitter when I was a teenager and regularly earned over $1,000 a month by babysitting (mainly in the summer).
Starting a babysitting business is a smart choice for teens as it’s simple to start with very few costs. Your main investment is the time and effort you spend taking care of children.
To get started, you’ll need to let people know you’re available. Reach out to your parents’ friends, neighbors, or family members. After a while, word of mouth can help you find more jobs.
Safety is really important too, of course. So, you will most likely want to get certified in first aid or CPR. This not only makes you more trustworthy but also helps you handle emergencies.
2. Car washing services
Starting a car washing business can be a great business for a teen entrepreneur.
To start, you just need basic supplies: a bucket, a soft sponge, window cleaner, and cloths for drying and polishing.
With a straightforward service like car washing, you can operate right in your driveway or travel to clients’ homes for convenience.
3. Start a blog
Starting a blog is a great way for you to share your thoughts and ideas while potentially earning money. Your blog can cover any topic you’re passionate about, whether it’s fashion, sports, technology, or your daily experiences.
While I was around 21 years old when I started my blog, I know a few people who started theirs as teenagers.
A blog can be a great business idea to start when you’re young, as you can decide how to build your blog, how you earn an income, and the schedule you put toward it.
You can easily learn how to start a blog with my free How To Create a Blog Course.
Here’s a quick outline of what you will learn:
Day 1: Why you should start a blog today
Day 2: What topic to blog about
Day 3: Tutorial on how to start a blog on WordPress
Day 4: How to make money with your blog
Day 5: How to make passive income on your blog
Day 6: How to get pageviews to your blog
Day 7: Tips to see success with your blog
Out of all of these business ideas for teens, blogging is by far my favorite. It does take more time to start making money, but it’s very flexible and fits with any kind of schedule.
4. Tutoring and teaching
If you’re a teen who’s really good at a certain subject, tutoring could be a great way to start a rewarding business. You can use your knowledge to help others do well in areas you’re good at.
Your friends or younger students might find it helpful to have one-on-one sessions where you explain difficult topics in simple ways.
Subjects you may be able to tutor in include:
Math
Science
Foreign languages
English
Many tutors are teenagers, so this may be a great fit for you!
5. Photography
If you love capturing moments through a lens, starting a photography business could be a perfect fit for you.
Starting a business as a photographer can kick off with a relatively low investment. Initially, you might need to spend between $500 to $2,000 on equipment like a good camera, lenses, and editing software. But, if you already have a camera, then that is the bulk of the cost.
You can take pictures at events like birthdays or graduations, capture stunning portraits, or create art through landscape and wildlife photography.
6. Home care services in your neighborhood
When you start a home care services business, you’re stepping into a role that helps busy homeowners manage their households.
This can include a range of services that assist with the upkeep of a home, such as:
Housecleaning – You can offer to dust, vacuum, and clean the different areas of a home. People always appreciate coming back to a sparkling clean space.
Laundry – Washing, drying, and folding clothes are tasks that many would gladly outsource to you. Organizing wardrobes or ironing clothes can be added services.
Plant care – Have a green thumb? Offer to water plants, prune leaves, and take care of any garden needs.
Raking leaves – Raking leaves is a good business idea for teens, especially during the fall. Trees drop their leaves and many homeowners need help gathering and disposing of them.
Errand runner – As an errand runner, you’ll help people in your community with tasks they might not have time for, like grocery shopping, picking up prescriptions, or mailing packages.
When I was a teen, I had a friend who was a personal assistant for someone in her neighborhood. She would pick up their dry cleaning, take care of their plants, walk their dogs, and more.
7. Pet care (pet sitting and dog walking)
If you’re a teen who loves animals, starting a pet care business can be a great way to earn some extra cash. Pet sitting and dog walking services are in high demand and can be both fun and rewarding.
To start, you can join a dog walking app-based service. Rover is a user-friendly option that connects you with pet owners. You can create a profile, set your own prices, and specify the types of services you feel comfortable providing, such as dog walking or pet sitting.
You can typically earn between $15 and $30 for each hour spent with a pet, considering you might need to commute to the pet’s location.
8. Graphic design
If you’re interested in art and technology, you can start a graphic design business.
Graphic design is about creating visual content for companies and individuals. You’ll use software to make logos, social media graphics, posters, and much more.
As a teen graphic designer, your income will vary. Typically, you can make anywhere from $5 to $100 per project when starting. As your skills grow, so can your rates. The market for design work is expanding, making room for you to succeed.
9. Music and art lessons
Can you play piano, guitar, or violin? Or maybe you’re skilled in drawing or painting?
If you’re a teen with a talent for music or art, teaching art or music lessons can be a great business idea. Whether you play an instrument or paint like a pro, other kids and parents might pay for your expertise.
10. Sell handmade goods and crafts
If you like being creative and making things with your hands, selling arts and crafts can be a great business idea for teens.
Here are some crafts that teens can create and sell for extra money:
Jewelry – You can make necklaces and bracelets.
Homemade candles – Candles are simple to make and can be sold to people who like to add a cozy feel to their homes.
Paintings – If you like to paint or draw, you can create artwork to sell.
Slime – Slime is really popular and fun to play with. Teens can make and sell their own slime in different colors and maybe even add things like glitter to make it unique.
Soap – Homemade soap is always nice to have, and people love to buy it.
Stickers – Everyone loves stickers and this can be a fun way to make extra money on Etsy or in person.
You may be able to sell your homemade items at local craft fairs or online on Etsy.
Recommended reading: 16 Best Things To Sell On Etsy To Make Money
11. Providing technical support
If you’re good with technology, starting a technical support service can be a choice to look into. Lots of people have trouble with technology and need help. As a teen, you can meet this demand by selling your tech-savvy skills and knowledge.
Services you can sell include:
Software installation and updates
Virus and malware removal
Hardware troubleshooting
Help with using different programs and apps
You can market your business by telling your friends, family, and neighbors about your services, and even by creating flyers to distribute and post on local community boards and at local businesses.
12. Start a YouTube channel
Making a YouTube channel is a way for you to share what you love, your talents, and your ideas with the world. It can also become a fun way to earn some money.
Most people know about YouTube, and almost everyone has seen at least one video on the platform. According to YouTube, there are over 2 billion people who watch at least one video on YouTube every month.
Many people have goals of starting a YouTube channel and making money, but not many people ever actually start.
You can learn more at How I Grew From 0 Subscribers To Over $100,000 On YouTube In Less Than One Year.
13. Design and sell print-on-demand products
Starting a print-on-demand business lets you be creative and make money. You can make products that are inexpensive to create, such as posters or custom-designed mugs.
To begin, design things that show your interests or what customers like. After that, use a service like Printful to put these designs on different products. The company takes care of everything else, from printing to shipping.
14. Lawn care business
Starting a lawn mowing business is a great way for teens to make money and is one of the popular small business ideas for teens. It’s easy to get started, and you can make cash during spring and summer (or even year-round depending on where you live, like Florida, Texas, Arizona, and California).
All you need is a lawn mower, some fuel, and basic gardening tools.
You can talk to neighbors, family, and friends to find new lawn mowing jobs.
I know many families with teenagers who mow lawns to make money. Some even turn it into a full-time business as they grow up.
15. House sitting
For teenagers, starting a house sitting business is a smart way to make money. You’re responsible for looking after someone’s home while they’re away, which is a big job.
Trust is important due to this, and homeowners must feel sure that their property and pets are safe in your care.
When I was a teen, I had a friend who was a regular house sitter for several people. She would water their plants, walk their dogs, and stay overnight in their homes to make sure everything was fine with the house.
16. Sell printables on Etsy
If you want to earn money from home and be your own boss with low startup costs, creating printables could be a great option for you.
A printable is a digital product that can be downloaded and printed at home. You create them once and then sell them on a platform like Etsy for people to purchase. You don’t have to physically print anything; you’re just selling the digital download.
Printables include things like grocery shopping checklists, weekly meal plans that people can put on their fridges, gift tags, and quotes to be framed. These are digital products that users can download and print for their use.
Making money at home as a teenager through creating printables is great because you create one digital file download for each product, and then you can sell them an unlimited number of times.
I recommend reading about this further at How I Make Money Selling Printables On Etsy.
Important note: To sell on Etsy, you need to be at least 18 years old. If you’re between 13 and 17, you can still sell on Etsy with the proper permission and under the direct supervision of your parent or legal guardian. The Etsy account should be registered using the parent or legal guardian’s information.
17. Social media influencer
If you enjoy being in front of the camera and are good at connecting with people, you could possibly make money as a social media influencer.
This can include platforms such as TikTok, Instagram, and more.
Now, this is not a guaranteed way to make extra money as a teen, as not everyone makes it. But, you won’t know unless you give it a try.
It’s all about your image and your message (and some luck too, of course). Ask yourself, what are you passionate about? Fashion? Gaming? Fitness?
You’ll want to keep your posts consistent (for many platforms, this will include posting at least once a day) and your voice authentic. This is how you’ll attract followers who can’t wait to see what you post next.
You’ll also want to interact with your audience. Reply to comments, ask questions, and listen to what they want. An engaged audience is a loyal one, and brands notice this. The more you connect, the more your followers trust you.
As your following grows, companies might pay you to talk about their products. That’s because they see value in your ability to reach and engage with a dedicated audience.
You can learn more at How I Make Money On TikTok – How I Grew To 350,000 Followers and Made $60,000 In 6 Weeks.
18. Videography
If you love making videos, starting a videography business could be a perfect idea for you. As a young entrepreneur, you can begin this business idea with just a smartphone or a basic camera.
You can start this small business idea by practicing filming different events like school activities or community gatherings. This will help you to create a portfolio that highlights your unique style and skills.
19. Streaming
If you like playing video games and have a fun personality, you may be able to make money streaming. With platforms like Twitch, you can create a channel where you showcase your gaming skills or entertain an audience with your commentary.
Once you gather a following, you can monetize your channel through subscriptions, ads, sponsorships, and donations. Selling branded merchandise is another way to earn money.
Recommended reading: How Much Do Twitch Streamers Make?
20. Baking
If you love making treats that leave your friends and family asking for more, starting a baking business could be your path to success.
You could bake things like cookies, cakes, bread, and more.
Before selling, make sure you understand the legal requirements, such as if you need a permit or license.
21. Proofreader
A proofreader is someone who reads through written stuff like articles, books, or ads to find and fix any mistakes. Your job is to make sure everything’s correct before people see it.
If you love reading and often spot mistakes in written content, you might want to explore becoming a proofreader.
Freelance proofreading is a flexible and detail-oriented job that only requires a laptop or tablet, an internet connection, grammar skills, and a good eye for finding mistakes.
If you want to find online proofreading jobs, I recommend watching this free 76-minute workshop all about how to get started proofreading.
Recommended reading: 20 Best Online Proofreading Jobs For Beginners (Earn $40,000+ A Year).
22. Buy and sell flipper
Reselling items online on platforms like Craigslist, eBay, or Facebook Marketplace can be a great way to run your own business and make extra money.
Plus, it’s something that anyone can start because many of us own things that we could probably sell.
And, there are always things you can buy for a low price and potentially resell for a profit. You might even find free items that people are throwing away and sell those too.
There is a helpful free webinar that I recommend – Turn Your Passion For Visiting Thrift Stores, Yard Sales & Flea Markets Into A Profitable Reselling Business In As Little As 14 Days.
23. Answer online surveys
Okay, so this isn’t a business, but it is a way to make money online.
Taking surveys won’t make you rich, but it can help you earn a bit of extra money during your spare minutes throughout the day.
Companies pay you to take surveys because they want to know what people think about their product and their company. They want real opinions from real people.
Here are some of the survey companies that are open to teenagers (along with their minimum age requirements):
American Consumer Opinion – Age minimum – 14 years old
Survey Junkie – Age minimum – 12 years old
Branded Surveys – Age minimum – 16 years old
Swagbucks – Age minimum – 13 years old
InboxDollars – Age minimum – 12 years old
User Interviews – Age minimum – 16 years old
Things To Think About as a Teen Entrepreneur
As a teen wanting to start a business, it’s important to think about things like balancing schoolwork, managing finances, and making sure that you are staying safe.
Balancing school and business
Your school schedule is a priority, and finding a balance between it and your new business venture is important, so it’s important to plan out your week.
I recommend creating a visual where you can see your school time, study hours, and time for your business.
Example of a weekly schedule:
Day
School Hours
Study Time
Business Hours
Free Time
Monday
8 a.m. – 3 p.m.
4 – 6 p.m.
7 – 9 p.m.
Remaining
Tuesday
8 a.m. – 3 p.m.
4 – 6 p.m.
7 – 9 p.m.
Remaining
…
…
…
…
…
Sunday
None
Optional
Flexible
Flexible
Financial planning
It’s important to understand the basics of financial planning when it comes to your business so that you can make sure you are making money and not wasting money.
So, I recommend listing the resources and materials you’ll need along with their costs. This also includes keeping track of all your expenses and income using a spreadsheet or even just writing your expenses down.
Working safely
You should always be safe, and make sure not to fall for any scams or fall into business with someone that you do not want to. Keep parents up-to-date on what is going on in your business and make sure to meet strangers in public/safe places.
Frequently Asked Questions
Below are answers to common questions about starting a business as a teen.
What are some easy-to-start business ideas for high school students?
If you’re in high school and want to start a business, you can sell services like lawn care, dog walking, or car washing. These types of businesses require minimal money from you to get started and can be managed around your school schedule.
What are the business ideas for teens online?
For online business ideas for teens, there are many things you could do such as selling printables, starting a blog, online tutoring, selling handmade crafts on Etsy, and more.
What are the top business ideas for young adults?
The top business ideas for young adults include babysitting, car washing, lawn mowing, online tutoring, and starting a YouTube channel.
What types of businesses are suitable for 13 to 17-year-olds?
Teens between 13 and 17 can look into babysitting, pet sitting, tutoring, or crafting and selling homemade goods.
Business Ideas for Teens – Summary
I hope you enjoyed this article on the best business ideas for teens.
Starting a business when you’re a teenager can be fun and help you make some extra money. This can help you to save money for college, buy things that you want, hang out with your friends, buy clothing, and more.
Plus, it’s a chance to learn important skills and a good work ethic.
You can do different things to earn cash, like doing chores at home or trying out creative online projects. If you enjoy outdoor work, you can wash cars or take care of lawns. If you’re into technology, you might want to start a blog or a YouTube channel.
There are lots of options depending on what you like and what you’re good at!
What other business ideas for teens would you add to this list?
For those who feel liberated by small apartment living but are having trouble strategically organizing in a way that makes your place feel tidy, this article is for you. Whether you just leased a Seattle apartment or are looking at apartments for rent in Naples, Florida, expert organizers offer their best insights to help you keep your belongings in order and readily accessible.
While the task may initially feel tricky, Barbara Metzel with Professional Organizing Plus says a small apartment requires “creativity and smart organization” influenced by a “minimalist approach.” Now, let’s get started.
1. Begin by decluttering
Initiate your organization journey by decluttering. Streamline possessions and keep only what is essential. This foundational step sets the stage for an efficient and visually pleasing living environment.
Founder of Selma Organizer, Mariselma Goncalves, shares how “a great way to achieve serenity, especially in a small apartment where every inch counts, is by organizing and decluttering.”
The act of decluttering, however, isn’t done once and then forgotten about until the stacks pile up. In her blog, Tacoma, Washington’s professional organizer and owner of Clear Spaces Organizing Co., Ashley Nariman, shares how “the most valuable thing you can do is to develop a regular habit of decluttering.” She recommends “adding a purge session to your calendar every 4-6 months to keep clutter in check.”
By decluttering and “reducing the number of items in a space,” Aaron Traub, owner and lead organizer of My Professional Organizer Dallas, shares that a space can be “more functional and serene.”
2. Utilize clear containers
Opt for transparent storage solutions to quickly identify contents. Clear containers provide a visual inventory and lend a sleek and uniform appearance to your storage areas, maintaining a sense of order and simplicity.
Professional organizer Bethany Van Dyke shares how clear containers can be utilized in spaces such as kitchens or bathrooms “to house perishable food or bathroom items” that were previously in bulky packaging that took up unnecessary space.
Mary Beth Bartlett and Megan McDowell with Rooms to Breathe recommend “transferring board games and puzzles into zippered mesh pouches and filing in a large open bin” to save space. Additionally, the duo suggests to those with craft stations “unboxing markers, crayons, glue sticks, and other art supplies and putting them into a divided turntable.”
3. Vertical space
Unlock valuable vertical real estate by installing shelves and organizers on walls. Embracing verticality optimizes space utilization, freeing up floor space and allowing a visually striking display of your belongings.
Creative consultant and designer for Organize Create Design, Tracy Broeckel, shares how “floating shelves and pegboard paired with hooks and baskets can free up valuable floor space.” With Half Full Organizing, Stacy Stevens adds that implementing these items can “offer function and double as décor.”
Sarah Kary, certified professional organizer with From Mess to Blessed, shares how command hooks can be versatile in what they are used for. She adds that they are “renter friendly” and great for “hats, jewelry, kitchen utensils, stringing lights, dog leash, and art and décor.”
When organizing vertically, Taylor Miller, founder of Orderly Interiors, recommends investing in “behind-the-door storage shelves to neatly house laundry supplies, tools, bathroom essentials, or pantry items.” Heather Cocozza, organizing and productivity consultant for Cocozza Organizing and Design, recommends renter-friendly products such as Elfa Back of the Door Solution or iDesign Affixx Adhesive Organizer Bin for back-of-door storage.
4. Fold clothes
Master the art of efficient clothing storage by adopting the KonMari folding method. Neatly folded clothes save space, reduce wrinkles, and create an appealing wardrobe. This technique proves particularly beneficial in confined closets.
Certified professional organizer Katie McAllister with Susquehanna Closet and Garage Design shares how “jeans, athletic clothing, sweaters, scrubs, and t-shirts all do very well folded.” She also adds how the ideal spacing between shelves is 8-10 inches. This allows you to “stack a few items without creating your own Leaning Tower of Pisa.”
5. Under-the-bed storage
Transform the underutilized space beneath your bed into a storage powerhouse. Invest in under-bed storage bins or drawers that can be readily accessible but offer an organized space to stow away underused items.
Deena McNichol, owner of One Thing at a Time Professional Organizing, shares how under-bed storage is great for items such as “shoes, linens, or sweaters.”
6. Integrate multifunctional furniture
Select furniture pieces with dual purposes to make the most of limited space. From ottomans with hidden storage to convertible sofa beds, multifunctional furniture adds versatility without sacrificing style, catering to both form and function in your compact abode.
Designer sales representative for Save Our Space, Cory Viereck, recommends that those limited in closet space add wardrobes that can fit their belongings.
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Welcome to NerdWallet’s Smart Money podcast, where we answer your real-world money questions. In this episode:
Learn how to utilize a tax advantaged 529 plan to help your or a friend’s children save for future education expenses.
This Week in Your Money: What are the risks of purchasing a home without an inspection? How can you plan for major expenses when healthcare providers can’t tell you how much their services will cost? Hosts Sean Pyles and Sara Rathner share their hot takes on unexpected financial challenges, with tips and tricks on handling surprise expenses, understanding the importance of home inspections, and dealing with healthcare industry inefficiencies.
Today’s Money Question: What are the benefits of a 529 college savings plan? Can you contribute to a friend’s 529 plan to support their child’s future? NerdWallet writer Elizabeth Ayoola joins Sean and Sara to discuss the essentials of 529 college savings plans. They discuss the types of educational expenses covered, the tax benefits associated with 529 plans, and the flexibility of choosing different state plans. They also answer a listener’s question about how to approach the sensitive topic of financial gifts for education with parents, sharing methods for contributing to a loved one’s 529 plan without overstepping boundaries. Then, they discuss the implications of the Secure Act 2.0 on 529 plans, methods for estimating necessary savings for a child’s education, and tactful ways to discuss educational contributions with parents.
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Episode transcript
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Sara Rathner:
Hey Sean, has money ever made you mad?
Sean Pyles:
Yeah, it has, especially when I get a bill that I don’t expect to pay but have to anyway. So yeah, why?
Sara Rathner:
Yeah. Yeah, those surprise major expenses are a huge pain. I just had to replace my washing machine because the fun never stops in my house.
In this episode, we are going to let off a little steam about what makes us mad in the world of money.
Sean Pyles:
Welcome to NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast. Our job today is to help you be smarter with your money, one money question at a time. I’m Sean Pyles.
Sara Rathner:
And I’m Sara Rathner.
So listener, this show is all about you and your money questions. So, whatever financial decision you’re pondering, whatever’s making you mad about your money, let us know.
Sean Pyles:
Leave a voicemail or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-NERD. Or you can email your questions to podcast@nerdwallet com.
Sara Rathner:
In this episode, Sean and I answer a listener’s question about contributing to 529 accounts for your loved ones. But first, we’re going to yell into the void in our semi-regular Money Hot Takes segment.
Sean Pyles:
So here’s how this works. Sara and I just rail against whatever we feel like in the world of money. And let’s put, say, 100 seconds on the clock. That’s what? A second for every penny in a dollar. I don’t know, it’s just an arbitrary number really.
Sara Rathner:
That works for me. It’s a nice round number.
Sean Pyles:
All right, Sara, are you ready?
Sara Rathner:
Sean Pyles:
I’m starting my timer. Go.
Sara Rathner:
All right. I hate the trend where home buyers feel pressure to completely waive getting a home inspection before buying a property. That’s different from the type of waiver where you’ll still do the inspection, but then you’re assuming the cost of anything you find. It’s when you just do without the inspection entirely.
I live in a block of houses that are like 107 years old, and two houses on my block sold with waived inspections where the buyers had to put tens of thousands of dollars unexpectedly into problems in their house that they didn’t know about. I just had a neighbor text me asking for a roofer because the first time it rained since she moved in her house, it started raining on the inside of her house, which means that the seller just lived with that for however long before selling the house and passing the problem onto somebody else.
So especially if you’re a first-time home buyer, if you are going to drain your savings to buy your house, and then you’re not going to have much money left for repairs, be really careful about this. And as a society, can we just make inspections mandatory? That’s more consumer-friendly, honestly. People need to know what they’re getting into, and frankly, people should feel pressure to keep their houses well maintained before sale. There I said it.
Sean Pyles:
You’ve got 40 more seconds if you want to keep on railing.
Sara Rathner:
Oh man, I do? Well, if you haven’t bought a home yet, what’s nice about getting an inspector involved is they’ll look at all the major systems of the house, the appliances, the roof, all sorts of stuff, the electrical, the plumbing, and they will tell you the lifespan of some of those major things like a furnace or a boiler, your roof, your HVAC system. And even if something is going to go in the next year or two, at least you have this laundry list of things and when they’ll probably need to be replaced, and you can begin to budget for those replacements.
Sean Pyles:
Okay, that’s 100 seconds.
Sara Rathner:
Boom. All right, Sean, you got any reaction?
Sean Pyles:
Well, I totally feel that, because buying a house without knowing what’s wrong with it is very risky financially. Buying a house can be financially risky in and of itself, depending on how expensive the home is. But imagine getting into the house, it’s your first day, you’re super happy to be a homeowner, and then you realize, oh, it’s raining inside the house, or the crawl space is infested with termites. You don’t know what you’re getting into if you don’t have an inspection. And even if it may make you a more competitive buyer, it isn’t worth it, in my opinion, to get yourself into something like that because you just don’t understand the risks you could be taking on. And I’m all about mitigating risks as much as possible.
Sara Rathner:
All right, Sean, I have had my turn, and now it is your turn. I have set my timer for 100 seconds. And go.
Sean Pyles:
Okay. Today I am mad about industries that are designed to extract money from us while making our lives miserable or at least really frustrating. And I have one, maybe two, examples depending on how far 100 seconds takes me.
First step is healthcare. Americans spend far more on healthcare than other wealthy nations. Nearly 18% of our GDP in 2021 went to healthcare. And what are we getting for it? An incompetent extractive industry that exploits nearly everyone that engages with it. Among wealthy nations, the US has the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality and excess deaths, not to mention the daily indignities that come with trying to access healthcare.
I have a recent example that is a microcosm of these larger issues. I recently got a bill in the mail for some regular lab work, and the thing is, I have these labs done every few months, and they’re always covered by my insurance. But this time I got a surprise bill for nearly $200, and I’d already had an expensive month with some car repairs, and I was not excited about the prospect of an additional $200 to cover. So I called my doctor, and they said, “Oh yeah, the company that does the lab work just messed up. Oops, just disregard the bill.”
So if I hadn’t called my doctor, I would have been on the hook for this bill. This was a relatively small bill as far as medical bills go, and it was fairly easy for me to clear up. I’m obviously very fortunate in this case, but for so many people, especially those with chronic illnesses or complex medical conditions, the onslaught of navigating insurance, verifying that you’re being billed correctly and then somehow coming up with the money to cover bill after bill is just totally exhausting and can make achieving financial goals nearly impossible.
So why am I going on and on about things that we already know too much about?
Sara Rathner:
Just so you know, you’re over time.
Sean Pyles:
Oh, God. I’m going to keep going. I’m almost done.
Sara Rathner:
Keep going, Sean. Let’s do this.
Sean Pyles:
All right. I am going on and on about this because I think it’s important to remind people that it does not have to be this way. We are in an election year, people, so I don’t know, let’s try to do something about it.
Okay, Sara, how many seconds was that?
Sara Rathner:
Oh, well I stopped timing it the second it hit the clock, so that might’ve been just an extra 10 seconds, honestly.
Sean Pyles:
Okay. It’s hard to fit so much into such a small amount of time.
Sara Rathner:
You know what? Your rage is such that it cannot be fit into a tiny container and that is valid. It’s okay to let the rage out and give it some more space.
I agree with you. What’s annoying is, for example, this past year I had a baby, and that is expensive to the tune for me of $7,000 out of pocket after insurance. Hi. $7,000 is a lot of money, people.
And what was annoying about that, and this is something for anybody who maybe is facing a planned medical procedure like a surgery or childbirth or anything like that, or who takes medication for chronic illnesses, I tried to call the billing department at the hospital to talk to my insurance company to say, “Can you at least give me an idea of how much money I will be out?” I knew going into it that I would be having a C-section. So I could say, “I’m having a C-section, that means I have to work with an anesthesiologist, which is an extra expense. Can you tell me ballpark, even if you’re off by a grand, how much should I budget for this?” And everyone’s like, “We don’t know.” Shrug emoji.
Then the bills just fly in for months and you think you’re done. So you’re like, “Okay, we’re done paying for the hospital bill. Now we can put our money into other stuff.” And then you get another bill for like, $1,100.
Sean Pyles:
And you have to question, was this billed correctly? Was it coded correctly? You don’t know. And it just flies in the face of all the things that we try to talk about in the personal finance space, which is around anticipating big expenses, budgeting for it, saving up for it if you can. It’s impossible when you don’t know what you’re going to be paying.
Sara Rathner:
Right, and if you’re facing surgery, what, are you just going to not have anesthesia to save money? Do not recommend.
Sean Pyles:
That is not a money-saving tip that we would recommend. No.
Sara Rathner:
No, that’s a place where you should spend good money, get good and numb.
But really it is an extra expense. And that’s so, so frustrating because you are not only out a lot of money, but you’re feeling kind of vulnerable because you’ve just gone through some medical stuff, even if it’s just blood work or something, and you want to take good care of your health, and it’s sometimes financially impossible to do that.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah. Not to mention completely demoralizing.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah, and some people just don’t go to the doctor because of the cost, or the dentist. And then years later, they’re faced with really serious health issues because they’ve been neglecting their health because of the cost.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah. I don’t know, it’s really tough in this space to talk about medical expenses because at NerdWallet and in the personal finance realm, we try to give actionable advice, and a lot of the time the advice is reactive. If you get a medical bill, you do have to ensure that it’s coded correctly. Maybe try to work out a payment plan with your medical office if you can’t cover the bill in one go. But it’s so hard to be proactive like you were just describing and understand what you’re going to have to pay if you want a routine procedure like blood work or something more significant like having a baby, makes me want to yell into the void all day every day.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah. Well, we took more than 100 seconds about this. If you have a body, then this is something that affects you, and it is really hard to deal with those extra unexpected costs.
Sean Pyles:
All right, so that is what we are mad about this week, listener. I know there’s a lot to be mad about in the world of money, so do not keep it in. Let us hear what you’re mad about, and we might just share it on a future episode.
You can text your Money Hot Take to us or leave a voicemail on the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-NERD. Or you can email it to podcast@nerdwallet com.
Sara Rathner:
All right, I don’t know about you, but my heart rate is starting to come down from all of that. Ooh, deep breaths, everyone. This episode’s money question is up next. So calm down too and stay with us.
Sean Pyles:
This episode’s money question comes from Lauren, who wrote us an email. Here it is.
“Hi nerdy Nerds. I’m not a parent. I’m never going to be a parent. Because of that, I have made it part of my financial plan to contribute to the 529 plans of kids around me. Because I don’t have nieces and nephews, I’m contributing toward the savings of my friend’s three-year-old. How much needs to go into a 529 starting at age two or three to cover a four-year private college?”
“I got the details on this kid’s 529 plan from his dad and started contributing about $100 a month. We didn’t talk about it. I intend to keep chipping in until the kid is done getting formal education 20 to 25 years from now. How do I talk to the parents? I want to understand if I’m helping enough without becoming privy to their private financial details. I also don’t want to make it seem like I have any vote whatsoever in how the kid charts an educational path. How do I broach this with the parents?”
Sara Rathner:
To help us answer this listener’s question, on this episode of the podcast, we are joined by NerdWallet writer Elizabeth Ayoola. Welcome.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Hello, and hi.
Sean Pyles:
Elizabeth, so good to have you on.
So let’s start by setting some groundwork. Can you please describe what a 529 college savings plan is, how they work, and why they’re such a big deal?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
A 529 plan is a huge deal indeed to me anyway. I wish I had one when I went to college because I was left with a huge bill. But anyways.
529s are tax advantaged college savings plans, and they allow people to save and invest money for education expenses. So, with that said, the money gets to grow, and it gets to compound, which can mean beneficiaries have a nice education pot to pull from when they need the money. And for those who don’t know what compounding is, it’s essentially when your interest earns interest.
Sara Rathner:
It’s the eighth wonder of the world.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Sara Rathner:
So you mentioned education expenses and that’s what the purpose of this account is, but what kinds of education expenses can you use a 529 to fund?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Funds in a 529 account can be used to cover a vast range of qualified expenses, and that can range from tuition to computers and education related equipment. The expenses can also be used to pay for education needs of your beneficiaries. And the good thing that I like is that the beneficiaries can be in anywhere from kindergarten through grade 12. So that said, it’s not only for college students.
Sean Pyles:
Right, that is a really good point because people hear about 529 accounts, and they think they may be specifically for people going through a traditional four-year education, but people can also use the funds in the 529 college savings plan to cover things like trade schools too. So it really isn’t only for that traditional four-year higher education route.
Sara Rathner:
So earlier you mentioned that 529s are tax advantaged accounts. Can you talk a little bit about the tax treatment of them, and what should people know when they’re considering opening a 529?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Well, one thing that I personally like about these accounts that some people don’t know also is that some states offer a tax deduction if you contribute to their plan. And when I say their plan, I mean the state that you live in. But there is no federal tax deduction for a 529 contribution. So it’s only at a state level. The tax deduction is usually capped. So no, you can’t just deduct your entire contribution. The deduction amount varies from state to state. So it’s best that you check in your state what the amount may be, if they offer it.
And a little bit off-topic, but I also like that the IRS doesn’t set a cap on your contributions to a 529 account, although some states do set a limit.
Sean Pyles:
And I’ll call out two other tax benefits of 529 college savings plans. The first is that investment growth in this account is tax-free, and second, distribution for qualified expenses like tuition or books are also tax-free.
Elizabeth, another important thing to know about 529 college savings plans is that each state has their own, and you don’t have to choose the 529 plan from the state that you live in. And this can all get a little bit confusing because there are so many states to choose from. So, at a high level, can you outline the main differences between a 529 from one state to the next, and how would someone go about choosing which state’s 529 plan to use?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
One of the major differences that people should know and a reason that people may cheat on their state’s 529 plan is lower fees. I personally have a 529 from a different state than my current home state for that very reason. So people should consider shopping around and comparing fees before opening an account. Ultimately, the goal should be to do some math and see whether the deductions and the credits that you’re going to get in the state that you live in are worth more than the lower fees that you could get in another state in the long term.
Also, note that you can open multiple 529 accounts. I have multiple 529 accounts. I recently opened a second one in my home state, Florida, because my son was awarded a grant and it could be transferred to a 529 account, but the catch was it had to be a Florida 529 plan.
Sara Rathner:
So 529s have some flexibility, which we talked about before, not just for four-year educations, but also for trade schools and for K to 12 expenses as well. And interestingly enough, 529s were just made even more flexible. Can you talk about recent changes around the ability to roll 529 funds into a Roth IRA, and what that means for folks who maybe aren’t considering going to college?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
The Secure Act 2.0 was recently passed, and if I can be honest, that’s what motivated me to open up my first 529 account, and I just opened it last year. I was always on the fence and only saved money in a brokerage account because I was afraid of what would happen if my son decided not to go to college in 15 years. He’s six, by the way.
I decided to get off the fence when the Secure Act 2.0 made it possible for people to roll at least a portion of the unused funds into a Roth account. However, you do have to wait until 15 years after you’ve opened the 529 account before you can roll those funds over. And you can also only roll up to a certain limit starting in 2024. It may be ideal to read the IRS’s rules, they have a lot of fine print around the conversion or speak to a finance professional about it.
I think Roths are also awesome because they aren’t subject to required minimum distributions and withdrawals. They’re also tax-free when you meet certain requirements like waiting until 59-1/2, amongst other rules.
Sara Rathner:
All right, well thank you for that great summary of the tax rules surrounding this new change. We just want to let you all know that we are not investing or tax professionals, and if you have any specific questions to your own situation, definitely consult a professional who can give you guidance.
Now let’s turn to the fun stuff. The math, Sean. I know that you are in the midst of your certified financial planner coursework. I have slogged through that myself. It is a lot. It is a lot of math.
Sean Pyles:
Sara Rathner:
And now that you know how to do it, I’m sure you’re eager to show off your chops. So are there any insights you can share that will help our listener figure out how much they need to save every month or every year to help their friends reach their savings goals?
Sean Pyles:
As a matter of fact, yes. And you’re right, I have been waiting for an opportunity to show off what I’ve been learning about because often I’m just doing calculations in silence and this is a time for me to be loud and proud about hitting buttons on a calculator. So let’s do it.
I’ll spare you and our listeners the specifics of the calculation, but I plugged the listener’s situation into a time value of money calculation and got a rough estimate for how much they will need to save.
Sara Rathner:
All right, drum roll. What’s the number?
Sean Pyles:
For our listener to meet the savings goal that they outlined in their question, remember, they want to save for four years of education at a private college starting now-ish and saving until the kid finishes school. They would need to save around $8,000 per year. Obviously, that’s a lot of money to contribute to a 529 account, no less for a kid who isn’t your own. And this is why 529s are often just part of the picture when it comes to paying for college, which usually includes some combination of scholarships, grants and loans and generous gifts from family friends.
Sara Rathner:
That is definitely more than a hundy a month.
Sean Pyles:
Yeah, that’s for sure.
All right, so all of that math out of the way, I want to talk about the other part of our listener’s question. They seem to be concerned about how much they should contribute and also how to talk about this with their friends. I am not a parent, so I would love to hear from both of you who are parents, how you would approach the situation if you had such a generous friend. Would you welcome the money, or say get out of my business? Or if you are going to accept this money, if you want to have this conversation with your friend, how would you want them to communicate that with you?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
Honestly, I would welcome the money, especially because I’m a single mama. So as a matter of fact, my friends always contribute to my son’s savings account in London for his birthdays or holidays and I really, really appreciate it. It can be a better gift to me than toys that stab me in the foot within a few days.
Sean Pyles:
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I would also appreciate a friend asking me what my savings goals are, so they know how to support that goal. However, I do think, for the sake of boundaries, I would like my friend to ask me my comfort level with the topic before they dive in and start trying to give advice.
I think it’s also important to note that not everyone is comfortable discussing money or financial goals. But with that said, here’s an example of maybe how somebody could say it. So you may say, “Hey, I want to help you reach John’s college savings goal. Are you comfortable discussing that target number you have in mind, and can you tell me how I can support that?” Or another option could be you saying, “Hey, would you like to do the math yourself and then let me know how I can support that goal?” So those are just a couple of options.
Sara Rathner:
Yeah, I mean, I’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. College is expensive now, and it’s only going to become even more expensive in the future. Even in-state tuition, where I live in Virginia, is often over $20,000 a year. That used to be the economical way to get a four-year degree, and now it’s also very, very expensive. So what’s it going to be like by the time my kid’s in college? I don’t know. A lot.
Sean Pyles:
I think we can confidently say more money.
Sara Rathner:
Confidently, we can say a whole lot more money.
I would want my friends to decide for themselves what they feel comfortable giving, because I don’t feel comfortable telling another person how they should allot their money because they have other competing financial goals and obligations. And I never want to tell another person what they can do with their money unless they specifically ask me to tell them what to do with their money, which nobody ever asks me.
Sean Pyles:
And you also don’t want to give the impression that your friends can’t look after their own family’s finances, right? That’s a bit of the awkwardness underlying the question, is you want to help someone that you care about and this child that you’re seeing grow up in the world, but you don’t want to impose your will upon them. It seems like our listener is being very thoughtful about that. And you don’t want to make it seem like you think they aren’t doing enough.
Sara Rathner:
Right, or you think their kids should go to a four-year private university because that’s what you value, but maybe the parents have other values that they want to impart upon their child as the kid grows up, and then the kid will go off and do their own thing as a young adult.
In my case, we have a 529 for our son. We have family members who’ve contributed money. They’ve just written checks to us, and then we deposit it into our account that is tied to our 529 and then deposit the money into the 529.
Ultimately, when you contribute, you do go through the account owners, and that’s oftentimes parent or guardians. You are going to have to communicate with them because they’re ultimately the gatekeeper of that account. They are the owners, and then the child is the beneficiary.
Sean Pyles:
That actually brings up something that I wanted to talk about, which is who would own this account? The listener could in theory open up a 529 account on their own for this kid. But long-term, it’s probably going to be easier if the parents are the owners of the account, because that way when the kid is eventually ready to go to college or trade school or what have you, the parent can be the one managing those distributions.
Personally, I know as a friend, as much as I love my friends and my friends’ kids, I don’t want to have to manage that down the road. So that’s something else that they should think about when they’re talking about this with their friends.
Sara Rathner:
I definitely agree with talking to the parents and ultimately contributing to an account that the parents or guardians are in charge of.
Sean Pyles:
Well, Elizabeth, do you have any final thoughts around 529s and helping your friend’s kids afford college?
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I think we have given some very juicy tips here and only two more things come to mind, which is one, while it’s noble to contribute to your friend’s kids or loved one’s kids’ 529 account, please take advantage of any state income tax deductions that you might be eligible for. The rules around this can be muddy. And I know the original listener who asked this question lives in a different state than where he’s contributing, but sometimes you’re able to get a deduction depending on the state that you live in. So if you can get money back, I mean, why not?
My second thing that I’ll say is that if your loved one doesn’t have a number in mind, guide them to a college savings calculator or run the numbers together over coffee if they’re open to doing that.
Sean Pyles:
Great. Well, thank you so much for coming on and talking with us.
Elizabeth Ayoola:
I loved it. Thank you for having me.
Sean Pyles:
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Sara Rathner:
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Sean Pyles:
And with that said, until next time, turn to the Nerds.
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